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		<title>By: R Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=46958&#038;cpage=1#comment-299573</link>
		<dc:creator>R Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because ancient religions and hokey superstitions fail to conjure up rebels or their bases?

Fear will keep the locals in line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because ancient religions and hokey superstitions fail to conjure up rebels or their bases?</p>
<p>Fear will keep the locals in line.</p>
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		<title>By: Leland</title>
		<link>http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=46958&#038;cpage=1#comment-299468</link>
		<dc:creator>Leland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ack, originally had, &quot;just to show you&quot;, and then switched sentence.  Damn Homophones.  Anyway, now Matula is pretending to be arguing your point all along.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack, originally had, &#8220;just to show you&#8221;, and then switched sentence.  Damn Homophones.  Anyway, now Matula is pretending to be arguing your point all along.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Matula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Matula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leland,

The British knew what they wanted the Mustang for, to supplement the Spitfire in replacing the outdated Hurricanes. They were using the P-40s for that purpose but NA offered them a better option.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leland,</p>
<p>The British knew what they wanted the Mustang for, to supplement the Spitfire in replacing the outdated Hurricanes. They were using the P-40s for that purpose but NA offered them a better option.</p>
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		<title>By: Leland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gregg,

Just show you know, I got it.  Using a more modern analogy, I think Matula thought Boeing had no idea what they wanted to do with the 787 until they signed the first contract with ANA.  Worse, the story of the P-51, P-80, and 787 development has nothing to do with NASA&#039;s programs like Apollo, STS, ISS, or Orion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg,</p>
<p>Just show you know, I got it.  Using a more modern analogy, I think Matula thought Boeing had no idea what they wanted to do with the 787 until they signed the first contract with ANA.  Worse, the story of the P-51, P-80, and 787 development has nothing to do with NASA&#8217;s programs like Apollo, STS, ISS, or Orion.</p>
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		<title>By: ken anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=46958&#038;cpage=1#comment-299437</link>
		<dc:creator>ken anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know they are trigger troops. We shouldn&#039;t have them there. Let S. Korea be the first line of defense. Let them work out their differences with Japan for joint defense. They are in much better shape to do so than any European nation which we should also work to cut off by getting them to stand up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know they are trigger troops. We shouldn&#8217;t have them there. Let S. Korea be the first line of defense. Let them work out their differences with Japan for joint defense. They are in much better shape to do so than any European nation which we should also work to cut off by getting them to stand up.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Matula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Matula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gregg,

And yet the first RAF squadron to fly Mustangs was based in England... 

So yes, the British came looking for more P-40s, they left with orders for a new fighter, probably the greatest of WWII, and there was no RFP of RFI or any such money wasting non-sense involved...  Which returns us to the point of this thread, a lot of procurement nonsense gets dumped when their is an emergency as was the case with World War II, or even the early space program. Look at the Navy&#039;s Polaris program for another example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg,</p>
<p>And yet the first RAF squadron to fly Mustangs was based in England&#8230; </p>
<p>So yes, the British came looking for more P-40s, they left with orders for a new fighter, probably the greatest of WWII, and there was no RFP of RFI or any such money wasting non-sense involved&#8230;  Which returns us to the point of this thread, a lot of procurement nonsense gets dumped when their is an emergency as was the case with World War II, or even the early space program. Look at the Navy&#8217;s Polaris program for another example.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[p.s. to TM:

&quot;The contract for 300 Mustang I was signed by the British only 3 days after Dunkirk, which I think even the British, as reserved as they were, would have called an “emergency”. &quot;

Again, oaf, you should learn to read before writing:

as I wrote above the Brits did NOT want the P-40 OR the P-51 for post Dunkirk European battle.

They wanted the P-40&#039;s for the easier theater such as Africa (see my references above).

Therefore there wasn&#039;t a BoB &quot;
emergency&quot;.

Nice try but that wiggle failed as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. to TM:</p>
<p>&#8220;The contract for 300 Mustang I was signed by the British only 3 days after Dunkirk, which I think even the British, as reserved as they were, would have called an “emergency”. &#8221;</p>
<p>Again, oaf, you should learn to read before writing:</p>
<p>as I wrote above the Brits did NOT want the P-40 OR the P-51 for post Dunkirk European battle.</p>
<p>They wanted the P-40&#8242;s for the easier theater such as Africa (see my references above).</p>
<p>Therefore there wasn&#8217;t a BoB &#8221;<br />
emergency&#8221;.</p>
<p>Nice try but that wiggle failed as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You really need to stop getting your history from comic books and magazines&quot;

Actually, oaf, my history that I posted above came from:

&quot;Mustang Designer: Edgar Schmued and the P-51&quot; by Ray Wagner

and

&quot;Development of the P-51 Mustang Long Range Escort Fighter&quot; by Paul A. Ludwig

Your &quot;history&quot; comes from a fevered frightened little mind who loses every debate he enters into.

Bringing in &quot;cost plus&quot; contracts is the usual deflection and change of subject we&#039;ve come to expect from losers.

The point (for the sentient readers) is that no design took 120 days...there&#039;s no &quot;start&quot; and &quot;stop&quot; - every designer and every company  has been cooking ideas for years and they often come together at just the right time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You really need to stop getting your history from comic books and magazines&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, oaf, my history that I posted above came from:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mustang Designer: Edgar Schmued and the P-51&#8243; by Ray Wagner</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>&#8220;Development of the P-51 Mustang Long Range Escort Fighter&#8221; by Paul A. Ludwig</p>
<p>Your &#8220;history&#8221; comes from a fevered frightened little mind who loses every debate he enters into.</p>
<p>Bringing in &#8220;cost plus&#8221; contracts is the usual deflection and change of subject we&#8217;ve come to expect from losers.</p>
<p>The point (for the sentient readers) is that no design took 120 days&#8230;there&#8217;s no &#8220;start&#8221; and &#8220;stop&#8221; &#8211; every designer and every company  has been cooking ideas for years and they often come together at just the right time.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Matula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Matula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gregg,

You really need to stop getting your history from comic books and magazines :-)

The contract for 300 Mustang I was signed by the British only 3 days after Dunkirk, which I think even the British, as reserved as they were, would have called an &quot;emergency&quot;.  

Here&#039;s a really good book that covers that era and how American industry responded to the &quot;war emergency&quot; the fall of France created in style!

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&amp;keywords=freedoms+forge&amp;tag=googhydr-20&amp;index=stripbooks&amp;hvadid=11816744557&amp;hvpos=1t1&amp;hvexid=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=3377907961948944241&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=b&amp;ref=pd_sl_1o5rdr646x_b

Freedom&#039;s Forge: How American Business Produced Victory in World War II by Arthur Herman 

As a bonus you will learn about the origin of the &quot;Cost Plus&quot; contracts that has driven the aerospace industry since :-)

And don&#039;t forget to use Rand&#039;s Amazon link so he gets a cut.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg,</p>
<p>You really need to stop getting your history from comic books and magazines <img src='http://www.transterrestrial.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The contract for 300 Mustang I was signed by the British only 3 days after Dunkirk, which I think even the British, as reserved as they were, would have called an &#8220;emergency&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a really good book that covers that era and how American industry responded to the &#8220;war emergency&#8221; the fall of France created in style!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&#038;keywords=freedoms+forge&#038;tag=googhydr-20&#038;index=stripbooks&#038;hvadid=11816744557&#038;hvpos=1t1&#038;hvexid=&#038;hvnetw=g&#038;hvrand=3377907961948944241&#038;hvpone=&#038;hvptwo=&#038;hvqmt=b&#038;ref=pd_sl_1o5rdr646x_b" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&#038;keywords=freedoms+forge&#038;tag=googhydr-20&#038;index=stripbooks&#038;hvadid=11816744557&#038;hvpos=1t1&#038;hvexid=&#038;hvnetw=g&#038;hvrand=3377907961948944241&#038;hvpone=&#038;hvptwo=&#038;hvqmt=b&#038;ref=pd_sl_1o5rdr646x_b</a></p>
<p>Freedom&#8217;s Forge: How American Business Produced Victory in World War II by Arthur Herman </p>
<p>As a bonus you will learn about the origin of the &#8220;Cost Plus&#8221; contracts that has driven the aerospace industry since <img src='http://www.transterrestrial.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget to use Rand&#8217;s Amazon link so he gets a cut.</p>
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		<title>By: Godzilla</title>
		<link>http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=46958&#038;cpage=1#comment-299398</link>
		<dc:creator>Godzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you talking about Libya? I doubt some drones and aerial bombardments from already existing NATO bases in Italy cost that much. Not that I was in favor of the war or deposing Gaddafi but I doubt it was that expensive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you talking about Libya? I doubt some drones and aerial bombardments from already existing NATO bases in Italy cost that much. Not that I was in favor of the war or deposing Gaddafi but I doubt it was that expensive.</p>
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