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Another Planet

A little island near the mouth of the Hudson River.

I don't know if this article is intended to be funny or not, but I found it hilarious, and dripping with irony.

Upper middle class Brooklynites called red state voters misinformed and self-interested. And outside the Apollo Theater in Harlem, residents cried that the fix was in and Bush had stolen another election.

"I'm devastated," writer Emma Starr said as she left the nation's largest member-owned and -operated food co-op. "I have proposed that we should have two distinct nations. Why should we be forced to live together under the rule of an evil dictator?"

...One-third of voters surveyed in nationwide Associated Press exit polls called themselves conservative, one-fifth liberal.

The opposite was true in New York, where about one-third of voters called themselves liberal, compared with one-fifth who identified themselves as conservative.

Three quarters of the city's voters pulled the lever for Kerry, compared with 48 percent of voters nationwide...

...Dr. Charles Goodstein, a psychiatrist at NYU Medical Center, described the patients with whom he spoke Wednesday as deeply saddened.

"It's had a real impact on them," he said. "There's a sense of hope that's been given up, the loss of an ideal, a kind of pessimistic view of the world."

He said, however, that what he was seeing was not clinical depression and he expected the somber mood to lift eventually.

Yes. Let us pray for them--as people from Jesusland, it's the least we can do.

[Update on Thursday morning]

Jeez. Here's another one, even worse.

"I'm saddened by what I feel is the obtuseness and shortsightedness of a good part of the country - the heartland," Dr. Joseph said. "This kind of redneck, shoot-from-the-hip mentality and a very concrete interpretation of religion is prevalent in Bush country - in the heartland."

"New Yorkers are more sophisticated and at a level of consciousness where we realize we have to think of globalization, of one mankind, that what's going to injure masses of people is not good for us," he said.

His friend, Ms. Cohn, a native of Wisconsin who deals in art, contended that New Yorkers were not as fooled by Mr. Bush's statements as other Americans might be. "New Yorkers are savvy," she said. "We have street smarts. Whereas people in the Midwest are more influenced by what their friends say."

"They're very 1950's," she said of Midwesterners. "When I go back there, I feel I'm in a time warp."

Dr. Joseph acknowledged that such attitudes could feed into the perception that New Yorkers are cultural elitists, but he didn't apologize for it.

"People who are more competitive and proficient at what they do tend to gravitate toward cities," he said.

Like those in the rest of the country, New Yorkers stayed up late watching the results, and some went to bed with a glimmer of hope that Mr. Kerry might yet find victory in some fortuitous combination of battleground states. But they awoke to reality. Some politically conscious children were disheartened - or sleepy - enough to ask parents if they could stay home. But even grownups were unnerved.

This thing almost reads like an Iowahawk parody, but I think that the reporters are serious.

Posted by Rand Simberg at November 03, 2004 06:40 PM
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Leonard Lopate, the liberal host of a morning talk show on public radio station WNYC, described left-leaning New Yorkers on Wednesday as stunned, despairing and alienated from the rest of the country.

"In the end it was issues like so-called moral values, gun control, things like that, that seemed to be much more important than the big issues that they felt were at the heart of this," Lopate said in an interview. "We are the symbol of the United States to everybody except the rest of the people in the United States."

Well, he's right about that. I live in the mid-west (about 100 miles from the geographic center of the US) and I've never thought of New York as symbolyizing me.

Can we make Kansas City the capital of the United States of Texas? :D

Posted by FDC at November 3, 2004 08:45 PM

The article says Bush voters were self-interested like it's a bad thing.

Posted by Rick C at November 3, 2004 09:23 PM

Thats funny that the whole point of the article seemed to make it out that all the democratic voters believe that the election was rigged again somehow. When even on CNN they are talking about how most people feel the election was honest and fair and that it was not rigged. I even saw a poll last night that compared the number of voters that thought the election was rigged had dropped from 34% on the last election to 10% on this one.

It also strikes me as odd that the there has been this huge reversal of which party is perceived to be the group that thinks with their head versus their heart. I had always considered the Liberals as being overly emotional and heartfelt being as they seemed to get so worked up over endangered squirrels being rolled over by lawn mowers in the middle of some empty field. Now they say they are being the rational ones and that the Republican base is given into the emotion of fear. Yet really if step back and analyze the liberal position they are much more ardent in the fact that they are fearful of the people that are fearful. Which means that the republican base continues to be the group that remains logical and headstrong because they are afraid of a real and physically existant threat of terrorism not a conspiratorial fallacy.

Posted by Josh "Hefty" Reiter at November 4, 2004 06:27 AM

If they want to secede from Jesusland, I think we should not hold to the Lincoln precedent.

Just this once.

Posted by McGehee at November 4, 2004 09:36 AM

I am concerned over the potential for infiltration of terrorists, UN bureaucrats, and like scum across the border between the Beautiful People's Republic of Manhattan and Jesusland.

If we can solve that one, they can secede with my blessing.

Posted by John "Akatsukami" Braue at November 4, 2004 04:31 PM

I lived in NYC thirty years ago. Then people recognized how screwed up the place was. A common comment was if the accountants knew things were screwed up, then things were really screwed up.

The incredibly sad thing is, if New Yorkers could get over their sense of cultural superiority, they could link up with people from the red states. Families in red states aren't threatened by a few gays, lesbians, whatever in NYC and San Francisco. The red state people might not realize it yet, but they are not. A much greater problem are those who want to grind everybody down to some minimal standard of living via poor education, extreme overwork, dysfunctional bureaucracies (public and private), etc.

Posted by Chuck Divine at November 4, 2004 06:04 PM

I've referenced a web site up above that echoes the sentiment of Emma Starr in this article. Liberals are beginning to talk very seriously about secession from the once-United States of America.

I have to say that the arrogant gloating I find on this web site will only encourage this kind of backlash from the liberals. Keep it up, and America will regard the word "liberal" as a very positive term, and "conservative" as referring to some kind of neo-fascist nationalism, as www.irregulartimes.com is reporting.

You don't have to agree with the liberals. I don't. But, there are some signs that the Republicans are starting to take things too far, and "rubbing it in" as this web site does is only going to make things worse.

Posted by Eddie Wizard at November 7, 2004 09:48 AM

. . .there are some signs that the Republicans are starting to take things too far. . .

Got some new exit polls, have you?

Posted by Carl Pham at November 7, 2004 02:14 PM


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