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"Hi, Are You Nuts?"

Herb Meyer has an open letter to Europe.

Posted by Rand Simberg at November 12, 2004 09:00 AM
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Posted by Carey Gage at November 12, 2004 09:25 AM

I think the answer to Herb's question is "Yep...they sure are!" I haven't seen anything approaching political sanity eminating from the Euro-weenies in years. Why should we expect otherwise now?

Posted by Vulgorilla at November 12, 2004 10:11 AM

It's a good letter, but not very original or inspired. It will only appeal to people who already agree with its contents. I can't see it getting anyone on the fence to change their thinking.

What would get people to change their thinking is a hard thing to know or even guess at, unfortunately.

I say this having a personal take on it. Someone close to me has deep European connections, but was raised American. He is rather torn between the two, now. He can see both viewpoints, and neither is fully satisfactory, although I think in the end he feels closer to the American. I think his strongest feeling sometime is bewilderment: how did we grow so far apart?

Posted by Carl Pham at November 12, 2004 10:16 AM

Quote: "And your armed forces are a joke. With the notable exception of Great Britain, you no longer have the military strength to defend yourselves. Alas, you no longer have the will to defend yourselves."

Well I don't know if that is exactly a fair statement. What could most of Europe do under the hand of the U.S. and U.S.S.R militaries during the cold war. I mean Germany has been propped up by the U.S. Military since WWII until recent history where we have seen a major reorganization in troop deployment.

Besides, we can't ignore the fact that France has advanced high precision weaponary of their own, nuclear weapons, and a nuclear powered aircraft carrier -- albeit their carrier does go slow and the reactor is constantly running at full capacity. Still I don't think I would want to face France in a straight up military conflict.

Switzerland has had a long proud heritage of having a fully capable military. They also design and build some of the most highly advanced military jet fighters in the world. Matter of fact the Swiss provide a large number of weapons in use today by our Law Enforcement and Military.

Posted by Josh "Hefty" Reiter at November 12, 2004 10:23 AM


The only hole I see in his argument is the birth rate thing. Native Europeans may be disappearing but it looks like Europe will be repoplulated by people from the Middle East and North Africa. France alone is alread up to their Brie in these immigrants.

Its another invasion of Islam only slow and steady via airports and roadways, instead of on horseback and in boats from North Africa.

Posted by Steve at November 12, 2004 12:08 PM

Nature abhors a vacuum. Europe is stagnating economically, culturally, and socially. Is it a small wonder that it is being (re) colonized by a more energetic Islamic culture?

Energetic, abeit barbarous.

More's the pity.

Posted by Michael at November 12, 2004 12:53 PM

As the Roman Empire crumbled, it was invaded by barbarians from the north.

As Old Europe crumbles, it's being invaded by barbarians from the Middle East.

What was that caution by George Santayana?

Posted by McGehee at November 12, 2004 01:59 PM

The writer makes many good points, and perhaps the best point of all is directed not at the Europeans, but at ourselves.

Consider this: the fall of Eurpoe that he describes is exactly what is happening here in the US, only that Europe is farther along the curve.

You can cite a huge number of similarities. From abortion, promiscuity, divorce-on-demand, and a general decline in moral values, to a liberal judiciary, failing education system, increasing immigration rates, and an overabundance of governmental regulation.

The lesson is: wake up America, there lies your fate if you continue on this path.

Fortuantely for us, I'd say the recent election indicates there's still a majority in this nation who are willing to stand against this tide of cultural destruction.

What can you do to help? It's really simple: Have kids. Lots of them. And raise them like you were raised.

Look at the fun you'll have just trying!

Posted by Dave G at November 13, 2004 06:11 AM

"As the Roman Empire crumbled, it was invaded by barbarians from the north.

"As Old Europe crumbles, it's being invaded by barbarians from the Middle East."

And we might also mention the Han Empire crumbling and being invaded by barbarians from the north and west...and the Egyptian Empire crumbling and by invaded by barbarrians from the sea.

In fact, end-stage empires crumbling and being invaded by barbarians is hardly an exceptional phenomenon. The barbarians have always been there; it's just that a younger and healthier empire can turn them back (often with such slaughter that the survivors reckon that they'll have a longer life expectancy back in the forests, swamps, and steppes).

Europe, though, isn't the end-stage empire of the West. A better analogy might be the migration of the Teutones and Cimbri at the end of the second century BCE, who also spread terror and destruction...until Marius and his "new model" Roman army exterminated them at Aquae Sextiae.

Posted by John "Akatsukami" Braue at November 13, 2004 07:29 AM

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