On what some think may be the eve of the release of the long-awaited report on Rathergate (though Jim Geraghty is skeptical), Professor Hailey is still trying (laughably) to show that the memos could be real. As one commenter asks, "How debunked does something have to be in order to have nothing debunkable left?"

But we want them to be real so very very badly! So they have to be real. They must be real! They are real!!!

Mike

"Tis merely a scratch, a fleshwound!"

All sorts of points can be constructed on this. Who cares? I care as much about Bush's slacking off on National Guard service as I cared for Clinton's jerking off with his secretary. No one got hurt from this. So what if Bush got himself plastered drunk when he should have been in his barracks and Clinton soiled a woman's dress in his office. Big deal.

What matters, to me at least, is what they did under their jobs as President. Clinton did one major mistake, which was bombing Serbia, to protect the Muslim KLA "freedom fighters" financed by OBL and the Saudis vs the "evil" duly elected commie Serbian government's police forces. Then they tried to portray this as some sort of genocide ordered by Milosevic. The whole trial is a sham. The man was fighting an insurrection on his own country under legal means. Perhaps US officials should be on trial for genocide against Serbian civilians? After all they killed more civilians with the bombings than the Serb police did. Oh right, I forgot the US only supports an international tribunal when it is used on someone else.

Bush did the mistake of invading Iraq. Which, unfortunately, is proving far more tragic in human lives cost. Contrary to Clinton, he was re-elected afterwards. Happy Happy Joy Joy.

Rand's gloating on this point supports the suggestion that the forged memos were a Freeper plant to "sting" Dan Rather. . .

Rand's gloating on this point supports the suggestion that the forged memos were a Freeper plant to "sting" Dan Rather

Only to paranoid loons. That's pretty nutty, Bill.

As low as my opinion is of Dan Rather, I never would have imagined that he would be so stupid as to swallow such obvious fakes, so it would have been silly to even attempt such a thing, since it would have such huge backfire potential. Apparently, I vastly underestimated his gullibility, and that of his producers.

I'm with Rand completely on this one. And, for the record, I did support Kerry -- about as enthusiastically as Rand supported Bush.

Conspiracy theories give me heartburn. As a matter of fact, I'm thinking of writing a satire on conspiracy theories for a local publication. If I can make it more general, I'll offer it up for the larger world to view. At present you actually have to know the people to get the joke.

Hope you realize that if you circulate any satire of a conspiracy theory widely enough, somebody will believe it is real.

For those who don't appreciate the subtlety of Occam's Razor, I suggest Occam's Mallet.

Don't you get it, Kevin? Karl Rover pulls all the strings.

All sorts of points can be constructed on this. Who cares? I care as much about Bush's slacking off on National Guard service as I cared for Clinton's jerking off with his secretary.

I'm amazed that there are people who can still say this. The Clinton story was real. The Bush story was false, and it stopped being about Bush the second the memos were demonstrated to be fakes. Now, the story is about a news agency that didn't do fact checking.

Also, Clinton's "jerking off," (and witness intimidation, and bribery, and perjury) occured while he was president...

"GodZirra" seems to be quite adept at bizarre analogies.

"long-awaited report"
Long awaited by whom? Those that don't already know that CBS and Dan Rather sacrificed journalistic standards to further their political agenda? Even if you hate Bush you have to take a stand against the abuse of journalism to accomplish an electoral goal.

GodZirra,

It's 'Gojirra'.

to Mike Puckett:
Can you get an authorative source on this? Romanji, whatever. Google seems to like Godzirra better (more results). I don't usually argue with Google.

to Rand Simberg:
Regarding witness intimidation, bribery and perjury, I'm still waiting for Saddam's vast stores of WMD, Niger uranium and evil balloons. Or to know how Haliburton got those wonder contracts without open market competition.

Speaking of market, have Enron and Worldcom management got properly punished yet? I haven't heard anything more on the case for a long time now.

http://www.firstuniversal.clara.net/godzillastory.htm

"Godzilla (Real name: Gojira) came to fame in 1954 in Toho Company's 'Gojira' starring with (thru the marvels of modern technology circa 1950's) Raymond Burr !!!

Many say if there had been no "Beast From 20,000 Fathoms" there would have been no "Godzilla". I do not believe this is correct. Ray Harryhausen's monster was less of an influence than King Kong which was created by Harryhausen's idol Willis O'Brien. The God Of Monsters actually came face to face with O'Briens Kong in one of Godzilla's early sequels.
It is even more accurate to say that if there had been no cowardly strike against Hiroshima and Nagazaki there would have been no "Godzilla". Because "Godzilla" is basically a nuclear allegory. "

Godzilla is an english bastardization of 'gojira'.

Godzira sounds like a cross between a 100 foot reptile and an intelligent female chimp from the future.

Ok, so the proper Romanji is Gojira, I stand corrected.

Good for you! BTW, Yokohama needs some urban renawal and Yoko Ono needs squashed!

I have forgiven Japan for WWII but I will never forgive them for Yoko Ono.

GodZirra, you are presumably unaware that Clinton was constitutionally disqualified from running in 2000 (if he had been able to, he almost certainly would have won), whereas Bush was not so disqualified in 2004.

Indeed you are correct John. We were spared from Clinton's blunders thanks to the 22nd Amendment. Thankfully, it should spare us from another Bush re-run in a couple of years as well.