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Did General Sanchez Perjure Himself?

Mark Kraft thinks so. At first glance, that's how it looks to me, too, but I'd be interested to see what the General or his defenders have to say.

Unlike him, though, I don't see any basis of inference that Rumsfeld did anything wrong. Of course, I don't consider any of the things listed in that memo torture, or relevant to the more egregious acts at Abu Ghraib. I am concerned about the possible perjury before Congress, though. As they say, it's not the act, it's the cover up.

Posted by Rand Simberg at March 30, 2005 09:01 AM
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I can understand why you don't see a basis of inference that Rumsfeld did anything wrong -- the evidence hasn't been fully uncovered yet regarding that matter. Larry Di Rita even stated in 2004 that Rumsfeld didn't approve the interrogation methods in Iraq.

That said, it is known that Rumsfeld had previously approved the interrogation methods for Guantanamo, which the methods in Sanchez' memo were based upon. Also, in August 2003, it was Rumsfeld who arranged for Major-General Geoffrey Miller to be sent to Iraq from Gunatanamo to, “review current Iraqi Theatre ability to rapidly exploit internees for actionable intelligence”. Miller then proceeded to take control over the interrogations at Abu Ghraib away from Army General Janis Karpinski.

In other words, we know that at about the same time that Sanchez' new Gitmo'ized policies went into place, that Rumsfeld had sent in a 'Gitmo "fixer" to get info out of those prisoners. Coincidence?!

Posted by Mark Kraft at March 30, 2005 10:50 AM

Coincidence!

Posted by at March 30, 2005 01:08 PM

Of course, just ask Clinton, perjury is nothing to be concerned about.

And I agree with Rand, I do not see that the methods listed even coming close to the definition of 'torture'. Stress positions, intimidation by dogs, heat/cold and light/dark usage do not rise to the definition of torture.

Posted by John at March 30, 2005 09:36 PM

I disagree. Sanchez didn't commit perjury. The memo spells out the techniques available, but also states that several of the techniques require specific approval prior to use; dogs, lights/noise, and stress positions. So if Sanchez did not provide the use of these techniques against specific individuals, he did not perjure himself. The remaining issue is sleep deprivation, which did not require additional approval. If 4 hours of sleep per night for a maximum of 3 days is sleep deprivation or torture, I see a massive class action lawsuit against the medical industry from all doctors and internists.
JR

Posted by JR at March 31, 2005 07:29 AM

My reading of the documents agrees with JR's.

Posted by Karl at March 31, 2005 09:58 AM


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