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Second Advent On Hold?

What effect does the French and Dutch voting down the European constitution have on Hal Lindsey's predictions?

The United States will not hold its present position of leadership in the western world; financially, the future leader will be Western Europe. Internal political chaos caused by student rebellion and Communist subversion will begin to erode the economy of our nation. Lack of moral principle by citizens and leaders will so weaken law and order that a state of anarchy will finally result. The military capability of the United States, though it is at present the most powerful in the world, has already been neutralized because no one has the courage to use it decisively. When the economy collapses so will the military.19

Something else that few have noted--while Chirac certainly lost big, another big loser is Valery Giscard D'estaing, who wrote the socialistic, micromanaging monstrosity that was voted down. I guess that's what he gets for having a girl's name.

Posted by Rand Simberg at June 01, 2005 05:47 PM
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Hal Lindsey is a f'n idiot.

But you knew that even before the EU vote.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut at June 1, 2005 06:50 PM

Anyone who thought the France would approve the EU constitution didn't remember that France has never done anything for the good of Europe. Why would they start now?

Posted by Bill Maron at June 1, 2005 08:32 PM

Of course there is a big difference between the failed constitutional vote for the 25 member EU, and the 10 member WEU of which Solano is the current president, and which has the real economic and military power in Europe.

I think the Western Europeans are not keen to open the door to Islam, particularly the French, who are so keen on their cultural identity. But this vote certainly isn't the end of European unity.

Posted by zztop at June 1, 2005 08:48 PM

But this vote certainly isn't the end of European unity.

No, it's not the end, and it's not the beginning of the end, either. That started when Jacques Chirac told the eastern Europeans that it was a good time to shut up. It's just one more step along the way.

Posted by Rand Simberg at June 2, 2005 04:34 AM

What is this "European unity" of which you speak?

Is it a common ceiling on the size of the deficit? That was abrogated by both the French and the Germans, and ultimately suspended (but it's not clear whether countries like the Netherlands could violate it w/ similar impunity).

Is it a common foreign policy? Is there one on such topics as lifting arms embargoes to China?

Is it a common military policy? Exactly how well did Europe perform in Bosnia? Srebenica, Vukovar, those names ring any bells?

Is it a common labor policy? If so, I'm curious whether Poland is or is not part of that "unity," since the "Polish plumbers" were so fearsome? '

What is this "European unity" of which you speak? I'm not sure a Eurovision song competition and a common currency (w/ no common tax policy or common labor policy to back it up) makes for it.

Posted by Lurking Observer at June 2, 2005 07:24 AM

I think Barbara describes Hal Lindsey accurately, but Rand, you are being a bit unfair taking a prediction quote from 1970. In 1970, Mark Felt had not yet violated his trust, nor had Nixon given him a reason too. Our military was in a decline. So it was easy to make a prediction like his. It served the US well, as we feared where things were headed; voted in Reagan; and things turned around.

Now, if you quoted his 1994 backup of his 1970 prediction, then we could laugh at the idiot that is Hal Lindsey.

Posted by Leland at June 2, 2005 08:46 AM

I dated a girl named Giscard once.

Man, she was hot, and the things she could do with a policy directive...



Posted by Sigivald at June 2, 2005 12:56 PM

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