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Then And Now

What Democrats were saying in Iraq before everything became George Bush's fault and he "lied us into war."

Posted by Rand Simberg at March 09, 2007 08:39 AM
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Barack Obama -- YouTube -- 2002

Watch the whole thing, to paraphrase someone famous. And this is part of why I prefer Obama to Hillary although I am seriously thinking about doing volunteer work for Bill Richardson.

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Posted by Bill White at March 9, 2007 08:46 AM

Good video, Rand! Something didn't make it down the memory hole.

Posted by Leland at March 9, 2007 10:13 AM

Bill, after watching that video and also knowing the hypocritical lynching of George W. Bush that the democrat party is now conducting, I can't fathom how anyone could support ANY democrat.

The democrat party (no I won't capitalize it or add the "ic") is almost entirely made up of liars and hypocrites these days. They have a long long way to go to ever earn any trust from me.

Posted by Cecil Trotter at March 9, 2007 03:41 PM


One problem our nation faces is that roughly equal numbers of people say what you are saying as compared with those who are saying they cannot fathom how anyone could support ANY republican. Ever. Each side thinks the other side is insane.

The divide is so deep and so wide I really am unsure how it will be bridged. As a practical matter, I don't believe either side will win many converts shouting at the other side.

The shouting of "Bush lied, people died" or "Democrats are appeasers" will make one's base feel good but no one will change sides because of it.

As far as Bush? He is already a lame duck and I will be content to let him and Bush Derangement fade into the sunset. The question is who will lead the GOP going forward.

As far as Iraq? The Democrats in Congress haven't the guts to pull the plug. Therefore, the can will be kicked down the road until 2008 and perhaps the two major candidates can give America a stark choice of direction thereafter.

Posted by Bill White at March 9, 2007 05:03 PM

"Each side thinks the other side is insane."

True, but the evidence supports the supposition that the democratic party is either insane or just stupid.

Proof: when was the last time you heard a leading democrat make as a about confronting Islamic terror as impassioned as their standard anti-Bush speech? I bet it's been a long time. The democrats ONLY goal of late is to, as we country boys like to say, tear Bush a new one.

Oh yea, democrats ARE appeasers. "Redeployment" my A$$. Retreat, surrender, or "cut and run" are much more accurately descriptive of the democrat plan. They want to abandon Iraq to AQ, Iran and whomever else wants a piece of it. They have no more foresight and/or care for the future than some kindergarten child trading his lunch money for a piece of gum.

Posted by Cecil Trotter at March 9, 2007 06:34 PM

"What Democrats were saying in Iraq before everything became George Bush's fault and he "lied us into war.""

Yes, regrettably true of some Democratic leaders; although it seems you would rather bury (in more ways than one) those who called him a liar from the beginning and were vindicated. There's also the minor problem that the overwhelming majority of Democrats never, at any time, believed Bush on Iraq or supported his invasion of it, and now desperate Republicans are falling all over themselves to shift blame on the party they all but accused of treason for NOT being on board.

And what really makes this an open and shut case on the quisling supporters of this regime is that plenty of Democrats, myself included, predicted as early as February of 2003 that the very people who steamrolled all objections to get their way would blame us for the consequences of their own insanity.

Being the target of Republican psychosis is nothing new to liberals, but I only hope the innocent Iraqi victims or their families can get some level of justice in their lifetimes. And here's hoping, Rand, that at some point you feel obliged to justify having beat the drums of murder to at least a few of those whose lives were destroyed by the Republican jackboot.

Posted by Brian Swiderski at March 11, 2007 08:26 PM

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