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I thought Rahm Emanuel's plan to cut off funding to the VP's office was cute. Perhaps we should bring Cheney up on senatorial ethics charges instead.

Posted by Adrasteia at June 23, 2007 08:47 PM

Perhaps we should bring Cheney up on senatorial ethics charges instead.

Now that would be cute. Maybe if there any Nazi death camp commandants still around, we can charge them with running an unlicensed crematorium.

Speaking of which...
A Republican is driving down the road, and discovers he took a wrong turn. What does he do? He drives back to the fork in the road and switches the signs.

Posted by Brian Swiderski at June 24, 2007 02:15 AM

.....and you destroy the signs and deny they ever were there to begin with.

"Now that would be cute. Maybe if there any Nazi death camp commandants still around, we can charge them with running an unlicensed crematorium."

Now I see you are anally raping Godwin's Law with a dose of moral equivilence on the side.

BS, The troll who self-parodies.

Posted by Mike Puckett at June 24, 2007 08:17 AM

Mike: ...and you destroy the signs and deny they ever were there to begin with.

Either you parrot exactly what I say back at me, or accuse liberals of n+1 worse than what's attributed to your ilk. Just go ahead and set up a chatbot written in MS Basic, you'll save more neurons for critical tasks.

Now I see you are anally raping Godwin's Law with a dose of moral equivilence on the side.

There is a reality beyond your Usenet fantasy world, Mike. If the actual, original Nazis were commenting here, some infantilized ignoramus would invoke Godwin's law to insist we not refer to anything they'd done and just debate the abstract merits of fascist theory. Dick Cheney is a psychopath and murderer of historical proportions, and the "shitizens" he bought off with tax cuts and religious bigotry should go door to door begging on their knees for forgiveness for their ignorance, insanity, and corruption.

BS, The troll who self-parodies.

Mike, the 3 kilobyte insult script.

Posted by Brian Swiderski at June 24, 2007 11:23 PM

Brian, that comment says a lot more about your own insane rage and hatred (and bigotry) than it does about the vice president.

Posted by Rand Simberg at June 25, 2007 05:24 AM

Dick Cheney is a psychopath and murderer of historical proportions

Whatever. This raving statement is just utter nonsense. Get back to discussing instead of spitting acidic stupidity Squiddie.

and the "shitizens" he bought off with tax cuts and religious bigotry should go door to door begging on their knees for forgiveness for their ignorance, insanity, and corruption.

Tax cuts worked and brought this country back from the economic Hell Clinton ignored us into. I'll agree with religious bigotry to a point. I don't see any evidence of corruption, other than the media trying so desperately to paint such a dire picture on the conservatives and nothing against the liberal left congress that enjoys the lowest approval rating in history.

Posted by Mac at June 25, 2007 05:26 AM

"There is a reality beyond your Usenet fantasy world, Mike."

Never been on usenet in my life. Never needed to.

Since when are you qualified to post on the subject or 'reality'?

That is like Cameron Diaz giving a lecture on the merits of ths Shining Path Gurellas to the Pereuvians.

Posted by Mike Puckett at June 25, 2007 07:30 AM

"Dick Cheney is a psychopath and murderer of historical proportions,"

In spite of the total lact of verifiable hard eviudence to support your nonsense assertion.

This is what I love about you. You jump out of a plane so arrogant in your self-certitude you fail to realize you grabbed a backpack and not a parachute.

Again, you self-parody. If I were going to troll boards and attempt to discredit leftists as blithering morons, I could do no better than to copy and paste your drool verbatim.

But please continue, it is your own hate-filled cause you are damaging.

Posted by Mike Puckett at June 25, 2007 07:35 AM

Rand: Brian, that comment says a lot more about your own insane rage and hatred (and bigotry) than it does about the vice president.

My statement has a lot more to do with Dick Cheney than yours, and you can't even be bothered to offer a contrary opinion. Are you that terrified of wading into the simple truth and its implications, or just afraid of me personally?

Mac: Tax cuts worked and brought this country back from the economic Hell Clinton ignored us into.

No dice, Mac. Those are long-discredited lies, and you and I both know you would attribute any economic gains to the most recent tax cuts no matter how long ago they occurred. Business conservatives shop for an instant payoff in the form of tax cuts, nothing more, and the proof is that no rate is ever low enough. The next time things go south, you people will be calling the current rates "confiscatory" and demanding more cuts at the expense of domestic spending. Dick Cheney and his crew know exactly what the price is to buy out the Constitution.

I'll agree with religious bigotry to a point.

If you voted for him, you already did. :D

I don't see any evidence of corruption

Then you must be determined to avoid seeing it. However the quid pro quo works, Dick Cheney completely ignores the law and ethics to advance the interests of associated industries, and they have more than reciprocated.

other than the media trying so desperately to paint such a dire picture on the conservatives

This is another reflection of conservative paranoia, denouncing a media that largely covers for them by virtue of both apathy (the MSM) and active interference (Clear Channel, News Corp., etc).

and nothing against the liberal left congress that enjoys the lowest approval rating in history.

1. You mean the center-right Congress.

2. Their low approval rating comes from their inability to end the Iraq war, which is courtesy of the remaining Republicans in Congress.

Posted by Brian Swiderski at June 25, 2007 08:08 AM

My statement has a lot more to do with Dick Cheney than yours, and you can't even be bothered to offer a contrary opinion.

Here's a contrary (and sane) opinion. Dick Cheney is not a psychopath or a murderer at all, let alone one of historic proportions, and the people who support him are not "shitizens." The reason that I didn't "bother" the first time is that it didn't seem necessary. It still doesn't.

Do you imagine that anyone's mind is changed on any subject favorable to you by the feces you fling all over my web site?

Are you that terrified of wading into the simple truth and its implications, or just afraid of me personally?

I'll answer that laughably paranoid complex question when you tell me whether or not you're still molesting little boys.

Posted by Rand Simberg at June 25, 2007 08:24 AM

Mike: In spite of the total lact of verifiable hard evidence to support your nonsense assertion. This is what I love about you. You jump out of a plane so arrogant in your self-certitude you fail to realize you grabbed a backpack and not a parachute.

Let me try to understand what you're saying. You've spent the last six years deliberately ignoring all newspaper articles, television news reports, magazine articles, books, documentaries, legal documents, government documents, Democratic minority investigations, and NGO findings on the subject of this regime, preemptively dismissing out of hand anything that even looks like what I'm talking about, and now when I refer to established facts on the subject you believe "there's no hard evidence"? In other words, you demand that I summarize the last six years of American history in service to your ignorance, but do so in a format both concise and detailed enough that you can't dismiss it as too vague or too voluminous.

If I were going to troll boards and attempt to discredit leftists as blithering morons, I could do no better than to copy and paste your drool verbatim. But please continue, it is your own hate-filled cause you are damaging.

Good ol' Cut-and-Paste Mike. We can always count on you for a kind word and a joke.

Posted by Brian Swiderski at June 25, 2007 09:53 AM

Mac: Tax cuts worked and brought this country back from the economic Hell Clinton ignored us into.

No dice, Mac. Those are long-discredited lies, and you and I both know you would attribute any economic gains to the most recent tax cuts no matter how long ago they occurred.

PLenty of dice Brian. The downturn following the tech bubble burst and the security concerns of 9/11, flattened out and reversed to gains strictly because of the tax cuts and the fed lowering interest rates. Those are attributed economic gains that are proven.

Business conservatives shop for an instant payoff in the form of tax cuts, nothing more, and the proof is that no rate is ever low enough.

Of course no rate is ever low enough, for the zero rate would mean total profits...duh. But enough of a tax tax break saved this nation's economy from further serious harm.

Dick Cheney and his crew know exactly what the price is to buy out the Constitution.

Yeah, giving Teddie K 500 million to play with and again FAIL to fix education.

However the quid pro quo works, Dick Cheney completely ignores the law and ethics to advance the interests of associated industries, and they have more than reciprocated.

How so? Halliburton bid for contracts, Halliburton was awrded contracts based on past performance. Even you should know that the lowest bidder is not usually the best to do the job.

This is another reflection of conservative paranoia, denouncing a media that largely covers for them by virtue of both apathy (the MSM) and active interference (Clear Channel, News Corp., etc).

Once again, the media displays quite a few more distressing news stories than good news stories because of two reasons. Bad news gets more ratings. Bad news gets more people to vote for the touchy-feely left. Media gives more money to liberal campaigns and follow it up with press coverage that makes them look good and the conservatives look worse than they are.

2. Their low approval rating comes from their inability to end the Iraq war, which is courtesy of the remaining Republicans in Congress.

Their low approval comes from no confidence in their ability by their constituants. If they can't end the war with their majority, than they really can't get much of anything done, can they? Or maybe, just maybe, they're doing what they always seem to do, read the polls and judge the best way to gain support and power, before they make a decision.

Posted by Mac at June 25, 2007 10:26 AM

Rand: Dick Cheney is not a psychopath

Just your average, everyday, cranky old man, making up wild stories on matters of life and death, lying at virtually every public appearance, sticking to his lies despite nonexistent evidence or support, vehemently pushing for the indefinite detention and torture of prisoners, plotting the invasion of another country years before coming to power, hobnobbing with apocalyptic religious fundamentalists, and declaring his office beyond the jurisdiction of all other United States institutions? Yes, clearly the poster boy for psychological health.

or a murderer at all

Even if you refuse to accept that aggressive war is murder, or that lying about it to instigate or continue it is murder, the fact remains that people have died in Guantanamo Bay as a result of their treatment--legally speaking, despite all attempts to keep them alive during their ordeal, they were tortured to death. Dick Cheney came up with the idea for the torture camps, wrote the order that officially stripped the prisoners of all rights, violated White House procedures and protocols by skipping staff review of the order, used a cabal of handpicked lawyers to write it without review by the DOJ, and quickly convinced Bush to sign it. Bush bears equal responsibility for his signature and continued support, but the whole abomination is Cheney's cherished baby.

let alone one of historic proportions

Historic proportions for two reasons:

1. He did this under the flag of the United States, using its government, its courts, and its military as instruments of flagrant treason and inhumanity.

2. The resulting death toll of all their crimes to date is in the high hundreds of thousands, and may top 1 million before the term ends.

and the people who support him are not "shitizens."

Yes, they are. The zealots who voted for him out of barbaric hate for scapegoated minorities are not citizens in any value sense, and certainly neither are those who sell their vote to the highest tax cut bidder. Most don't even bother with the trickle-down voodoo you've probably convinced yourself to believe in, they just see they're being offered a fatter check and say "Yeah, gimme!" I don't think anyone could seriously imagine most Republicans turning down a tax cut, no matter how low the existing rate.

Do you imagine that anyone's mind is changed on any subject favorable to you by the feces you fling all over my web site?

Do you imagine I'm trying to be persuasive? If I were, you wouldn't even be talking to me--you'd be brooding over your own confusion, and then later congratulating yourself on having convinced me of your ideas. :D

Posted by Brian Swiderski at June 25, 2007 11:54 AM

Now that's ranting. But he didn't quote me, so I must be right! Hah!

Posted by Mac at June 25, 2007 12:45 PM

It's absolutely ludicrous to suggest that Cheney has the competency to be in the big leagues with Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot or Hitler. At most he's a Pinochet.

Posted by Adrasteia at June 26, 2007 08:50 PM

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