Here's an excerpt from a new book that just came out today, describing the war between the CIA, and the Pentagon and White House. I wonder if it will talk about their ally, the State Department?

Sorry, Rand, but this looks like a pretty shifty piece of work. It appears to me to be more of the propaganda that has been directed at the agency over the past few years in order to excuse the huge intelligence failure that occured in the lead up to the Iraqi Invasion. The CIA was out of the loop when Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and some other members of the Bush administration bypassed them. If anything, it appears to me that the problem was that Tenet wasn't assertive enough in protecting US interests prior to the invasion.

I imagine there is or will be books that try to impartially figure out who did what. But this doesn't strike me as one of those books.

I wish you'd be more skeptical in what you support.

They weren't out of the loop. The CIAs involvement was and is rather public and well documented.

The case can be (and was) made that just about all allied and friendly intelligence agencies/services were in the loop or at the very least gave input to it. Not just the CIA.

Ouch maybe that's CIA's problem right there; not just the CIA...

Sounds to me like the CIA is doing everything imaginable to avoid admitting they have a serious problem.

The excerpt and what it describes doesn't strike me as shocking at all. It's office politics on steroids and it often comes down to the qualities of the guy two steps up the chain of command from whoever experiences it. Now since most stuff like that has travelled up and down through the backrooms of that very same chain of command beforehand to gather sufficient strenght that leaves it all up to an inspector general system or similar. Good luck with that.

So one makes a lot of noise if one thinks it's worth it. Usually it isn't as whoever started it would normally have enough good sense as to not go completely overboard.