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The idiotic media explanations for the poor box-office performance of the anti-American films on the Iraq war are cluelessly hilarious. But the many commenters are happy to explain it to them.

It would be quite gratifying to see a pro-American Iraq war movie made, and have it clean up at the box office. I'd pop some popcorn to see into what kinds of logical pretzels the media types would contort themselves in a pathetic attempt to explain it.

Posted by Rand Simberg at November 11, 2007 09:07 AM
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There is a problem with the idea of a successful pro-American war movie; Aside from the low probability of such a movie ever being produced (which I'm sure you will agree with), it is also unlikely that such a movie could be successful in the face of a left leaning media assault. We know the reviewers can't make a movie a hit by wishing it were so, but they can spoil a good movie's chances at the box office. A really great movie might overcome this enough to make money, but I doubt any studio would take the chance, even if they were fully backed by a strong creative/producing team.

Posted by Karl Armstrong at November 11, 2007 10:43 AM

it is also unlikely that such a movie could be successful in the face of a left leaning media assault. We know the reviewers can't make a movie a hit by wishing it were so, but they can spoil a good movie's chances at the box office.

I'm not so sure about that. They haven't been able to hold Mel Gibson's films (which are generally quite politically incorrect) down. If anything, the media assault is often just great publicity for the films, resulting in more people wanting to see them.

Posted by Rand Simberg at November 11, 2007 11:03 AM

Remember the response to 300?

Posted by Bill Peschel at November 11, 2007 11:32 AM

Mel Gibson make the movie? Given his fantasies of Jews behind every problem in the world and his stated position on the Iraq war, that might get a lot of media hype and possibly ticket sales.

It might actually make the very Iffy link between Neocons and Jews become more than a rightwingers attempt at a fig leaf (ant-semitism used as a defensive tactic etc. ) to something the public actually believes. Frightening thought.

Posted by Offside at November 11, 2007 11:57 AM


Team America broke even

Posted by at November 11, 2007 03:15 PM


The Green Berets did Okay but it was pro-vietnam

Posted by at November 11, 2007 03:19 PM

I don't think Mel would really lean that way. Take "We Were Soldiers" his adaptation of the
Hal Moore/Jerry Galloway account of the LaDrang
Valley battle. I don't what Mel's personal feelings were about that war (one does know that
Hutton Gibson; a fervent Ron Paul supporter, moved his family to Australia when Mel was 10; ironically, Australia was just a strong supporter
of the Vietnam War as the US)But his support for
the soldier and their families; shines clear through. As each one falls, one feels it. I think
the same would apply to his account of the battle
of Fallujah or other such engagements

Posted by narciso at November 11, 2007 07:30 PM

Hollywood won't be making any movies for some time to come. For the striking writers, this is a big disaster. As the last string of movies play out, and few people go to see them; what is the motivation to get these guys back to work as quick as possible?

Of course, I'm bias. I would love for the writers strike to last a year or more.

How did NBC/Universal do with green week?

I do want to say that the comments at the link are awesome.

Posted by Leland at November 12, 2007 05:05 AM

How about Bruce Willis? Take a look at Michael Yon's articles about his support of the troops. Bet he'd star in a positive movie.

Posted by Fred Kiesche at November 12, 2007 08:32 AM

Thomas Jane in "Lone Survivor"? Talk about a chance at a great movie.

Posted by Bill Maron at November 12, 2007 09:37 AM

I want most film to be fun. Tragedies and geeky-intellectual head films should be served only in moderation; overdoses of either mess with the mind.

Posted by Alan K. Henderson at November 14, 2007 04:33 AM


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