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Missing Mutiny

Cecil Adams apparently never heard of the Wilkes Exploration Expedition, in which he suppressed a (probably justifiable) mutiny. Unless the question is about successful mutinies, but it doesn't seem like he uses that restriction in his own examples. And of course, it's also unsurprising that he's unaware of it--it's a little-known part of American history, at least until this book came out.

Posted by Rand Simberg at January 29, 2007 11:28 AM
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Hey Rand,

Getting a "Page cannot be found" http error when the second link ("this book") is clicked. What "book" is it that you speak of?

Posted by kayawanee at January 29, 2007 11:41 AM

Sorry, should work now.

Posted by Rand Simberg at January 29, 2007 11:46 AM

I think you mean Cecil _Adams_.

Posted by Cambias at January 29, 2007 02:14 PM

Hey, Moore, Adams...it's all good.

Thanks.

Posted by Rand Simberg at January 29, 2007 02:17 PM

I read that book, and my impression was that Wilkes was a paranoid and the mutiny was in his head, his interpretation of the resistance he was getting because of severe low morale (caused, in part, by his own strict and capricious style of command). IMO his favorite mentor, Bainbridge, was no better. I strongly recommend the book, though; the US Exploration Expedition is every bit as important as the voyages of Capt. Cook and Capt. Vancouver, and the post expedition events were at least as interesting as reading, say, Caroline Alexander's book about the trials following the mutiny on the Bounty.

Posted by LAN3 at January 29, 2007 02:35 PM

Also try his Mayflower, a gripping and fascinating story of the Plymouth colony. It will make you appreciate how easy life today is.

Posted by Carl Pham at January 29, 2007 11:54 PM

Remember - Hornblower did push the captain down the stairs.

Posted by ech at January 30, 2007 07:23 AM

Hornblower was British.

Posted by Rand Simberg at January 30, 2007 07:29 AM

Not to mention fictional...

Posted by Rand Simberg at January 30, 2007 07:29 AM

"Voyage of Discovery" by Philbrick, and the Alexander book on the Bounty, are currently in the book bins at Walgreens (at least here in Florida) priced at 2 for $10; that is where I got my copy of both. Full Disclosure- Walgreens is my employer, but I personally stand to gain nothing by posting the information, which I decided to mention as it is a saving on the amazon price and very likely to be locally available.

Posted by Stewart at January 31, 2007 12:56 AM

LAN3,

Most of the early USN commanders were actually pretty good, Bainbridge included. They were mostly very enlightened for the time, though some of them (Rogers, Truxtun, and Preble especially) could be remarkably unpleasant with their crews. Bainbridge especially stands out because of the way he held his men together while they were prisoners of the Dey of Tripoli for more than a year after the capture of the frigate Philadelphia - a lot of the things he did to keep them as a coherent unit have since been enshrined in official US doctrine regarding behavior if taken prisoner.

Best regards,
Mike Kozlowski

Posted by Mike Kozlowski at January 31, 2007 10:36 AM


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