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I think this is a great idea that could set a wonderful precedent. I think a great first test case on the efficacy of the process would be to set up a trial for those responsible for banning use of DDT for mosquito control in malaria zones.

Hauling William Ruckelshaus and the EDF in front of a tribunal to have them answer for their crimes against humanity would be a great way to deter the eco-facists from seeking to set environmental policy based on faulty science.

Posted by teej at October 12, 2006 06:31 AM

A whiff of fascism? Why no!

A great, billowing, noxious cloud of fascism? That’s a little more like it.

Posted by McGehee at October 12, 2006 06:36 AM

And to think he was within a few hundred votes of becoming our President.

Posted by Leland at October 12, 2006 06:40 AM

I was hoping that we could just set up our own country somewhere on this continent. Their country would be full of rainbows and self-esteem classes in elementary school, and no military. Ours would have classical values, capitalism and a strong military.

But they can't live and let live. They would claim our borders were illegal, and they would try to enter our new country, and they would try to organize economic sanctions against our industry and force us to close down and live in yurts on goat farms.

History is written by the winners.

Posted by at October 12, 2006 07:26 AM

"I want use the state to impose my dreamy good intentions. Conservatives are evil. So, if they get ahold of government they will use government to do evil in the same way that we would do good."

One government to rule them all!

Posted by BDavis at October 12, 2006 08:31 AM

There was a line that should be famous issued by a blogger or forum commenter somewhere:

Liberal: "Why don't you gun nuts go start your own country?"

Gun nut: "We did. Who the hell let *you* in here?"

Posted by Rick C at October 12, 2006 08:56 AM

We could have Nuremburg syle hearings for Gun Control Supporters, Opponents of Nuclear Power.....

The left better not start what others might finish. Be careful what you wish for.

Posted by Mike Puckett at October 12, 2006 09:13 AM

So if someone points out that Oval BA has suddenly appeared over the last few years and now has winds of over 400 miles per hour, or if one points out the MSSS data that shows that the polar caps on Mars are shrinking, thus implying that "global" warming is in fact solar-system-wide, then they are to go on trial?

Skepticism is in integral part of science. The practice of persecuting skeptics should be left in the realm in which it belongs: religion.

Now, who is it that is constantly squawking about the separation of church and state...?

Posted by Ed Minchau at October 12, 2006 09:25 AM

What's the bet this guy is from Massachusetts? Three hundred and fourteen years later and those morons still haven't figured it out.

Posted by Chris Mann at October 12, 2006 09:43 AM

Evidently the Islamofascists (putting it mildly) aren't the only ones still entrapped in the Dark Ages. The so called "progressives" (a misnomer by any standard) are, in fact, quite reactionary/regressive.
(http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=22695)

Liberal = non-liberal : so Orwellian.

Posted by Sharpshooter at October 12, 2006 11:24 AM

Looks to me as if they're right on the edges of 'Godwin's Law...'

Mike Puckett is right, this would set a truly lousy precedent.

Posted by Frank Glover at October 12, 2006 02:09 PM

"And to think he was within a few hundred votes of becoming our President."

Huh? Gore didn't say this. Did you note the guilt by association slam by the press release? Al Gore was once "interviewed" by this on-line journal, and is therefore required to comment on something idiotic said by its editor sometime after his interview?

Posted by at October 12, 2006 03:56 PM

All you shitheads make sure you go and vote Republican in November, make sure you drive our nation deeeper into the unthinking stupid ignorant mess that you've been building the last six years.

Posted by Independent at October 12, 2006 06:22 PM

Hmmmm - do I smell a whiff of projection, NON-"independent"?

Posted by Barbara Skolaut at October 12, 2006 06:32 PM

Yes, Barbara I am an independent, one who used to vote Republican and who has no choice now but to vote Democrat. Open your eyes woman.

Posted by Independent at October 12, 2006 07:00 PM

Interesting ... Would the crime be:

* "entertaining the idea" that global warming isn't a problem?

* "Saying/blogging" that global warming isn't a problem?

Assuming the very odd premises of Mr. Roberts what does he mean by the Nuremberg analogy? I don't believe we tried and executed any Nazis for thoughts or speech.

Even if you believe that the Earth's modest warming, current and future, is anthropomorphic every person on the planet has had a small part in creating the emissions.

I shudder to think what "solution" Mr. Roberts would try to impose by gov't force on all of us to cure us from the alledged anthropomorphic warming.

Not that this proves anything, but it is funny, did you hear that it snowed today in Chicago?

Posted by Fred K at October 12, 2006 08:19 PM

"Yes, Barbara I am an independent, one who used to vote Republican and who has no choice now but to vote Democrat. Open your eyes woman."

Independent=Moonbat, Lose Screw Moron Liar who ain't fooling anybody.

Don't piss down our backs and tell us it's raining.

Posted by Mike Puckett at October 12, 2006 08:23 PM

Glad you're not a Republican anymore "independent" as I wouldn't want to be associated with anyone of your obviously low integrity and lack of intelligence.

Posted by Cecil Trotter at October 12, 2006 08:33 PM

If any actual trials took place, they'd probably look less like Nuremberg and more like Monty Python. Except for the punishment - burning the heretic would add to global warming.

Posted by Alan K. Henderson at October 12, 2006 10:09 PM

All you shitheads make sure you go and vote Republican in November, make sure you drive our nation deeeper into the unthinking stupid ignorant mess that you've been building the last six years.

That isn't an entirely stupid idea.

As it stands, the current democratic party is just as useless as the republicans. If both sides continue to play partisan politics and completely fsck the country up in the next two years, maybe voters will be pushed to start demanding real institutional change.

Posted by Chris Mann at October 12, 2006 10:31 PM

Fred says: Not that this proves anything, but it is funny, did you hear that it snowed today in Chicago?

SNOWED! Holy crap! It's Global Cooling again!

Posted by Mac at October 13, 2006 06:46 AM

I have a piece of advice for all you old farts on this website. Charter a plane, or since you farts think space is so cool, a spaceship for that matter. One of you so cool pilots can pilot it. Gas it up and fly it out to the crowning achievement of your blessed President - yes, get the f*** out to Iraq and go side by side with the young Americans dying in a lost cause or coming back maimed. Do it suckers. Put you feet where your shitty mouths are.

Posted by Independent at October 13, 2006 07:58 AM

Ah, here it is, finally, the "chickenhawk" argument. The last desperate and illogical resort of the true moron with no actual arguments.

Posted by Rand Simberg at October 13, 2006 08:03 AM

Of course, what is hilarious about such arguments is that the military has almost no liberals in it - it is almost entirely conservatives. So while we can realistically say that about Mr Independant, he cannot really say it about us. I suppose we could have a show of hands of who has brothers, fathers, and sons in the military right now - I know my hand would be up, along with many others here - but interestingly enough, few liberal hands (if any) would go up...

I suppose this might be a good time to examine the tendancy of humans to accuse others of the acts they do themselves...

Posted by David Sumemrs at October 13, 2006 08:35 AM

Ok you can stop trying to prove you're an idiot independant, we've seen enough evidence already to close that case.

Posted by Cecil Trotter at October 13, 2006 09:08 AM

Independant Asshole Hemorrhoid,

I served my country in uniform. You serve yours covered in preparation H.

Shitty mouths? Does the irony of that statement even beging to penetrate your 70 IQ? You project with such gusto, we should call you Bell&Howell.

I'll bet you are one of the booger eating morons who believe the lose change tripeheads too.

Like South Park said the other night, 1/4 of the population is retarded. You are squarely embedded in that 1/4.

Posted by Mike Puckett at October 13, 2006 09:24 AM

One thing the global warming crowd has never addressed is the fact that the earth was much warmer 1,000 years ago than it is now. Greenland was green and grapes and wine was produced in southern England.

The other thing is, aren't we about due for another ice age? I believe the current pattern is 100,000-150,000 years of ice age, followed by 10,000 or so of warm period. If so, we're at the end of the current warm period. Perhaps man-made green house gases are good for us because they will keep us out of the next ice age (I believe Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven wrote a novel based on this idea). If so, why not crank it up? We could certainly get the Chinese to crank it up.

Also, I read a good article that stated if we had a choice between a warm, rich world and poorer, cooler one; the warm, rich world was the better choice. The more money and technology you have, the more tools you have to throw at any problem that might come down the pike in the next 100 years.

The biggest beef I have with the global warming crowd is their opposition to nuclear power. I have recently learned of a new type of power plant called the integral fast reactor (aka advanced fast reactor) where all of the reprocessing of the nuclear fuel is done in the same building as the reactor itself. Its 100 times more fuel efficient than current power plants and can actually use the waste they plan to bury in Yucca Valley as fuel. In fact, if we had 500 IFR plants, we actually would not have to mine any new Uranium ore for the next 500 years. It also does away with the need for the enrichment process used for current plants.

The IFR concept should definitely be developed. We are idiots not to develop it. Maybe the Japanese of Chinese will develop it. Toshiba recently bought out Westinghouse. Maybe Mitsui or Mitsubishi will buy out GE's nuclear division.

Also, I've never heard any of the global warming people trot out the old O'neill L-5 scenario for building solar power satellites and beaming the energy back to Earth. I would have expected someone to have done this by now.

It seems to me that the global warming crowd does not want a real solution to the problem to be developed (one that allows for continuous economic growth). That is, if there really is a problem (which I doubt). They seem to want to use this issue for social "leveling" instead. They also seem to have fantasies about everyone living in a rural pastoral lifestyle.

Well, I'm not a pastoral kind of guy. I like the urban party scene and I definitely like international travel (and do it as much as possible).

If the global warming people want to be taken seriously, they need to support more high-tech solutions to the perceived problem.

Posted by Kurt at October 13, 2006 09:28 AM

Hey Kurt,

Stop making cogent arguments. This is the internet ... call somebody hitler or something. ;-)

--Fred

Posted by fred k at October 13, 2006 09:49 AM

Aren't fantasies of show trials worth 30 points on the Crackpot Index?

Posted by Joseph Hertzlinger at October 13, 2006 10:37 AM

I'm a hitler, you're a hitler, we're all a hitler. Maybe we should all go out and get hitler masks for Halloween.

Posted by Kurt at October 13, 2006 10:38 AM

Kurt says: It seems to me that the global warming crowd does not want a real solution to the problem to be developed

They have no solution because there is no problem defined. Global Warming is a myth propogated by numbers that can be skewed any way you want them. Remember this crowd is the same that lamented the Global Cooling problem in the eighties. The idea that nature is static all the time and only affected by mankind is flat ludicrous. However, the left want you to believe that we are bad to the planet. I'm waiting for the left to denounce volcanoes for spouting particulate into the atmosphere in one eruption that dwarfs what mankind puts into it in a year.

Posted by Mac at October 13, 2006 11:25 AM

My eyes have been open for a loooong time, NON-"independent."

What Mike and Cecil said, troll.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut at October 13, 2006 12:30 PM

Mac, we already have a real solution. It's dirt cheap and has been available since the 60's. Unfortunately the very same religious cultists who now protest global warming stopped it from being deployed.

Posted by Chris Mann at October 13, 2006 03:32 PM

It truly is possible to disagree with each other without the ad-hominem attacks. Really, it is.

Posted by Ed Minchau at October 13, 2006 11:25 PM

You know who else hated ad-hominem attacks Ed? Hitler.

Posted by Chris Mann at October 14, 2006 12:30 AM

"Well, I'm not a pastoral kind of guy. I like the urban party scene and I definitely like international travel (and do it as much as possible)."

Ditto. I've run over most of these alternative energy schemes on my blog.

http://amssolarempire.blog spot.com

Posted by qwerty182764 at October 14, 2006 10:01 AM

*Enthusiastically puts on his brand new George Bush mask*

"Maybe we should all go out and get hitler masks for Halloween."

*cry* I never do what the cool kids are doing.

Posted by Josh Reiter at October 15, 2006 11:46 PM

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