19 thoughts on “If ObamaCare Is So Popular In Massachusetts”
This was an obvious sign that the White House knows just how unpopular the legislation currently is
No, it was a sign that health care reform is not issue #1 with MA voters (they already have near-universal coverage), and that MA voters don’t want to feel like they’re just a means to an ends that doesn’t much concern them. The rest of the country cares about what tomorrow’s vote means for health care; MA voters care about what it means for MA.
Jimbo “health care reform is not issue #1 with MA voters”
Health care is not and has not been the #1 issue with ANY group of Americans, yet it has been almost the sole focus of the current administration / congress for months. Why is that Jimbo? If he didn’t mention health care to the MA audience because it isn’t #1 with them why is he pushing it on the rest of the country when it isn’t #1 with any of us? Your lame excuse making for The One doesn’t jive with the facts.
If he didn’t mention health care to the MA audience because it isn’t #1 with them why is he pushing it on the rest of the country when it isn’t #1 with any of us?
It matters much more to the 49 states who don’t have near-unversal coverage than it does to the 1 state that does — is that hard to grasp?
it was a sign that health care reform is not issue #1 with MA voters
The reality-aversion is strong with this one. It’s only the first issue mentioned on Brown’s web site, and a prominent feature of his campaign, but of course there’s no way Brown knows what’s important to MA’s voters. He’s only trying to get their votes, after all.
So Jim “Mr National Healthcare” aka Ted Kennedy spent the last 40 + years of his life fighting for national health care with no regard to the wishes of the citizens of his home state? Even after Mass instituted its own “universal” health care coverage, Kennedy still fought for a national health care system… just out of habit I suppose.
Could it be that Massachusettes voters — and Scott Brown — know something Jim doesn’t?
Nahhhh…
“Massachusettes” hehehe
Good one 😉
I think voters in MA are VERY aware of the cost of health care and it IS an issue.
From what I hear, people in MA are fed up with their “health” “care” system. Perhaps they don’t want to see it foisted on the rest of the country, so they can still go to another state to receive decent treatment…
From what I hear, people in MA are fed up with their “health” “care” system.
You heard wrong. In the most recent Boston Globe poll MA’s health reform has 59% support, and only 11% of those polled want it repealed.
Those are the sort of numbers that motivate GOP opposition to national health care reform — they know that once voters have it, they won’t want to go back, any more than they want to repeal Medicare, Medicaid, S-CHIP or HIPPA.
Those approving are down 10% in a year so next year will be less than 50%.
“In another question, residents were nearly evenly split over whether Massachusetts could afford to continue with the law as it stands: 43 percent said the state could not, and 40 percent said it could.”
Oops!
“The fact that Massachusetts is still going along with a still relatively popular law, by doing it in pieces, may be the best piece of advice Massachusetts can give the nation,’’ he said. “This was politically doable here because all of the difficult choices of slowing costs weren’t on the table.’’
Another lesson from snake oil salesmen.
“Amid a severe recession that has led to cuts in state programs and unrelenting job losses, 59 percent of those surveyed said they favored the state’s multimillion-dollar insurance initiative…”
That should be 2 BILLION now.
“To help balance the state budget earlier this year, lawmakers cut 70 percent of the funding for subsidized health insurance for about 30,000 legal immigrants…”
Old people are next. The pattern here, Jim, is it looks good on paper but they CAN’T PAY FOR IT.
Huh, that poll doesn’t fit with Rasmussen’s poll. There, 26% of voters think Massachusetts’ health care reform is a success, 37% think it is a failure, and the rest are undecided. I imagine part of the discrepancy is that Rasmussen polled voters not residents.
Very nice sharing.I would say there are two ways to look at RomneyCare vis a vis Brown:
1. You’re a lib and love it, which gives no incentive to vote for Coakley and ObamaCare.
2. You hate it because you’ve experienced it, and therefore want to stop ObamaCare, which will be far worse than RomneyCare and, unlike state programs which can be repealed or reformed, will be impossible to overturn.
Those approving are down 10% in a year so next year will be less than 50%.
Do you really think that’s how it works?
It’s only the first issue mentioned on Brown’s web site, and a prominent feature of his campaign, but of course there’s no way Brown knows what’s important to MA’s voters. He’s only trying to get their votes, after all.
WTH would Brown know? That bitter clinger drives around in a truck! A truck!
That bitter clinger drives around in a truck! A truck!
And for some reason thinks that fact is worth pointing out in his campaign ads….
And for some reason thinks that fact is worth pointing out in his campaign ads….
Yes, the nerve! The audacity!
“Do you really think that’s how it works?”
No, I think it will be lower after the cuts in care and increases in premiums.
This was an obvious sign that the White House knows just how unpopular the legislation currently is
No, it was a sign that health care reform is not issue #1 with MA voters (they already have near-universal coverage), and that MA voters don’t want to feel like they’re just a means to an ends that doesn’t much concern them. The rest of the country cares about what tomorrow’s vote means for health care; MA voters care about what it means for MA.
Jimbo “health care reform is not issue #1 with MA voters”
Health care is not and has not been the #1 issue with ANY group of Americans, yet it has been almost the sole focus of the current administration / congress for months. Why is that Jimbo? If he didn’t mention health care to the MA audience because it isn’t #1 with them why is he pushing it on the rest of the country when it isn’t #1 with any of us? Your lame excuse making for The One doesn’t jive with the facts.
So, when Obama says president said. “A lot of these measures are going to rest on one vote in the U.S. senate. we’re not supposed to hear or know about health care?
If he didn’t mention health care to the MA audience because it isn’t #1 with them why is he pushing it on the rest of the country when it isn’t #1 with any of us?
It matters much more to the 49 states who don’t have near-unversal coverage than it does to the 1 state that does — is that hard to grasp?
The reality-aversion is strong with this one. It’s only the first issue mentioned on Brown’s web site, and a prominent feature of his campaign, but of course there’s no way Brown knows what’s important to MA’s voters. He’s only trying to get their votes, after all.
So Jim “Mr National Healthcare” aka Ted Kennedy spent the last 40 + years of his life fighting for national health care with no regard to the wishes of the citizens of his home state? Even after Mass instituted its own “universal” health care coverage, Kennedy still fought for a national health care system… just out of habit I suppose.
Could it be that Massachusettes voters — and Scott Brown — know something Jim doesn’t?
Nahhhh…
“Massachusettes” hehehe
Good one 😉
I think voters in MA are VERY aware of the cost of health care and it IS an issue.
From what I hear, people in MA are fed up with their “health” “care” system. Perhaps they don’t want to see it foisted on the rest of the country, so they can still go to another state to receive decent treatment…
From what I hear, people in MA are fed up with their “health” “care” system.
You heard wrong. In the most recent Boston Globe poll MA’s health reform has 59% support, and only 11% of those polled want it repealed.
Those are the sort of numbers that motivate GOP opposition to national health care reform — they know that once voters have it, they won’t want to go back, any more than they want to repeal Medicare, Medicaid, S-CHIP or HIPPA.
Those approving are down 10% in a year so next year will be less than 50%.
“In another question, residents were nearly evenly split over whether Massachusetts could afford to continue with the law as it stands: 43 percent said the state could not, and 40 percent said it could.”
Oops!
“The fact that Massachusetts is still going along with a still relatively popular law, by doing it in pieces, may be the best piece of advice Massachusetts can give the nation,’’ he said. “This was politically doable here because all of the difficult choices of slowing costs weren’t on the table.’’
Another lesson from snake oil salesmen.
“Amid a severe recession that has led to cuts in state programs and unrelenting job losses, 59 percent of those surveyed said they favored the state’s multimillion-dollar insurance initiative…”
That should be 2 BILLION now.
“To help balance the state budget earlier this year, lawmakers cut 70 percent of the funding for subsidized health insurance for about 30,000 legal immigrants…”
Old people are next. The pattern here, Jim, is it looks good on paper but they CAN’T PAY FOR IT.
Huh, that poll doesn’t fit with Rasmussen’s poll. There, 26% of voters think Massachusetts’ health care reform is a success, 37% think it is a failure, and the rest are undecided. I imagine part of the discrepancy is that Rasmussen polled voters not residents.
Very nice sharing.I would say there are two ways to look at RomneyCare vis a vis Brown:
1. You’re a lib and love it, which gives no incentive to vote for Coakley and ObamaCare.
2. You hate it because you’ve experienced it, and therefore want to stop ObamaCare, which will be far worse than RomneyCare and, unlike state programs which can be repealed or reformed, will be impossible to overturn.
Those approving are down 10% in a year so next year will be less than 50%.
Do you really think that’s how it works?
WTH would Brown know? That bitter clinger drives around in a truck! A truck!
That bitter clinger drives around in a truck! A truck!
And for some reason thinks that fact is worth pointing out in his campaign ads….
And for some reason thinks that fact is worth pointing out in his campaign ads….
Yes, the nerve! The audacity!
“Do you really think that’s how it works?”
No, I think it will be lower after the cuts in care and increases in premiums.