A few years ago there was an outbreak of the Hantavirus on the Reservations of the Southwest. Isn’t it entirely possible that something that ‘normal’, yet deadly could have run through the Clovis People?
I sometimes think ‘modern’ scientific people don’t remember that just 75 or 80 years ago, people did from infections that we think nothing of in 2013. So, to me, a severe outbreak of something like the Hantavirus could destroy an ancient people. And if scavengers got to bodies, and wind and weather in general, there might not be a tons of bones in an old adobe town.
That being said, zombies could carry off pieces and parts for miles.
If the theory that the Clovis originated in Europe is correct than a virus brought by the paleo-indians from Asia would indeed be a good explanation, combined of course with the paleo-indidans wiping out the survivors.
The original article pisses me off. It says, in part, “Researchers argue that no appropriately sized impact craters from that time period have been discovered, and no shocked material or any other features of impact have been found in sediments. They also found that samples presented in support of the impact hypothesis were contaminated with modern material and that no physics model can support the theory.”
Unless they have more, this proves nothing. An impact on the ice sheet would not leave much evidence, but more to the point, a Tunguska-like airblast would leave none.
I’ll accept that they may have disproven some of the evidence for it, but that does not mean it didn’t happen. It still might have.
My own opinion (before this) is that maybe the younger-dryas climate event was triggered by an impact or an airburst, and maybe it wasn’t. I think these findings might make the impact theory less likely (due to invalidating evidence of it), but they don’t seem to prove a darn thing. (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence).
I also remember reading articles from the time of the K-T impact theory’s birth, denouncing it in similar ways.
BTW, I’m no fan of the pro- younger-dryas impact side either; many show the same inclination to a rush to judgement that the other side is.
The most likely fate was extermination/out-competition from newer arrivals. Although I’ve read some claims that they just got pushed into more and more remote areas, and ended up in Patagonia.
Since they aren’t us, of course they must have been spiritually superior and transcended. I would combine this with the fart theory for propulsion.
Dang. I was kind of rooting for the comet/exploding asteroid/impact into a retreating glacier hypothesis. Zombies are cool, though.
Zombies pretty much have to be cool. If it gets warm the pieces fall off too quickly.
A few years ago there was an outbreak of the Hantavirus on the Reservations of the Southwest. Isn’t it entirely possible that something that ‘normal’, yet deadly could have run through the Clovis People?
I sometimes think ‘modern’ scientific people don’t remember that just 75 or 80 years ago, people did from infections that we think nothing of in 2013. So, to me, a severe outbreak of something like the Hantavirus could destroy an ancient people. And if scavengers got to bodies, and wind and weather in general, there might not be a tons of bones in an old adobe town.
That being said, zombies could carry off pieces and parts for miles.
UH, let’s remake that above to say,
people DIED from infections…
If the theory that the Clovis originated in Europe is correct than a virus brought by the paleo-indians from Asia would indeed be a good explanation, combined of course with the paleo-indidans wiping out the survivors.
I think they became liberals. No one wanted to work anymore and their society collapsed from the dead weight.
The original article pisses me off. It says, in part, “Researchers argue that no appropriately sized impact craters from that time period have been discovered, and no shocked material or any other features of impact have been found in sediments. They also found that samples presented in support of the impact hypothesis were contaminated with modern material and that no physics model can support the theory.”
Unless they have more, this proves nothing. An impact on the ice sheet would not leave much evidence, but more to the point, a Tunguska-like airblast would leave none.
I’ll accept that they may have disproven some of the evidence for it, but that does not mean it didn’t happen. It still might have.
My own opinion (before this) is that maybe the younger-dryas climate event was triggered by an impact or an airburst, and maybe it wasn’t. I think these findings might make the impact theory less likely (due to invalidating evidence of it), but they don’t seem to prove a darn thing. (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence).
I also remember reading articles from the time of the K-T impact theory’s birth, denouncing it in similar ways.
BTW, I’m no fan of the pro- younger-dryas impact side either; many show the same inclination to a rush to judgement that the other side is.
This isn’t how science should be done.
Meh. I’m not choosing a side until the science is settled.
The science is always settled, just ask a liberal to tell you what to think.
The most likely fate was extermination/out-competition from newer arrivals. Although I’ve read some claims that they just got pushed into more and more remote areas, and ended up in Patagonia.
It was Gary 7 I tell ya.
“It was Gary 7 I tell ya.”
Well if there was a Terri Garr in an animal skin outfit, you might have thrown the wrong switch too