Sounds like a return to the excessive, dubious and vomit inducing moralizing of the original series.
Yes, typical Roddenberryesque utopian nonsense.
Sounds like The Next Generation and Picard . . .
Well what to expect it is Star Trek after all. The stupid policies that make no sense in the real world are just one reason why I preferred to watch Babylon 5.
PS: What’s the problem with babes in underwear?
Nothing at all. More babes, less underwear.
Uh, or something like that.
Remember Lee Meriweather in “That Which Survives” and the navel-gaze suppressor?
Underwear or miniskirts.
If you end up reading Celestial Musings instead of Transterrestrial Musings then you’re at Celeste Yarnall’s website. She played Chekov’s love interest in “The Apple” (season 2, episode 9).
Just thought everyone should know that…
That was cool, thanks.
Lee Meriwether.
That bit about “awakening evil in ourselves” is the core of the liberal failure. The “evil in ourselves” never sleeps.
That’s why things like laws, and religion, and even mere etiquette exist — to foster self-discipline and help keep the monster under control.
I’m pretty sure the evil within me, that never sleeps these last few months, is a gut bacteria that can convert anything into CO2 and methane like a low-pressure boiling nuclear reactor, but maybe that’s just too much of a self-confession of evil to put out in the public domain.
Oh! You have one of those too! Mine’s been operating for years. I believe that I have personally saved Earth from an ice age. Carbon rules!!
“Beano — to suppress the evil within.”
Sounds like a winning ad campaign to me.
If only it would kill us rather than this continued torture.
I wasn’t inclined to see this movie before, and I’m even less so now.
I used to watch the original series as a kid; it was in rerun, and at the time the next generation series was around too, also in rerun.
From my perspective (that of a kid) the original was pretty good though had some very silly episodes. I didn’t notice any moralizing or politics in it (though it would have had to be really blatant for me to pick up on it at that age).
I did however notice the sanctimonious heavy-handed moralizing on the next generation series. That, plus I felt it had even more silly episodes, most of which I skipped.
Overall, I liked the original, but didn’t like the next generation (and still haven’t seen most of its episodes)
I’ve seen a few of the movies. I wasn’t impressed. Well, except for one that had whales… I loved it; because for most of it I was pretty sure it was a satire. (If you view it thinking it’s a satire, it’s actually pretty funny).
I have to say I’m not surprised that they’d go with heavy handed baloney in the new movie. Sounds to me like Star Trek is one of the many things that gets worse with age.
I got an idea for the next Trek.
There is this planet, see, where humans can’t breathe the air, and the Federation has to go there and get some supplies of dilithium.
The beings that live there are these “cat people”, who include this incredibly “hot” African American woman, and McCoy turns Spock into one of these cat people so he can get their confidence and get the dilithium.
Only Kirk doesn’t believe in any of this, thinking that “Spock and even McCoy have gone native”, and he uses this exoskeleton space-suit thing for himself and an “away team”, sorry, for a “transporter landing party” . . . well, I am still working on the rest.
My favorite ST series is DS9. I just finished watching the whole series on DVD. They didn’t moralize as much, they were in the middle of a hot war they were losing badly and weren’t above playing dirty tricks.
Just posted this comment: “I never found it conceivable that the Ferengi could have made it to the stars. They are a classic low-trust society, like Arabs or Sicilians or Southeast Asians. And an exceptionally larcenous one. That combination doesn’t produce the mix of cultural memes that encourage innovation and economic growth.”
I was just a kid when the first series came out so of course I love it. After all – before that I had “Lost in Space” which even as a kid I found…lacking. ST:TOS was far more “scientific” than Lost in Space, in my opinion.
I couldn’t stand The Next Generation. The moment Marina Sirtis (hot) said, “We of the Federation celebrate diversity” I shut it off.
The rest of them were no better.
I liked the first new ST movie (2009?). But in that movie I noticed that the writers/director were overly fond of people falling/jumping from great heights. Happened at least 3 times. In the trailer for the new one you see the same thing. So that’s a hint this movie could suck: no imagination.
Now Cumberbatch is a fabulous actor. I really like the BBC Sherlock series. So he’ll be pretty good.
I’ll go see the thing but my expectations have been lowered. For the above reasons as well as the fact that quite often, second movies in a series are a complete write off and the third is much better.
It was a film that exhorted the glorious leftist utopia of the future but somehow could not be obtained even with the unlimited power of Star Trek technology.
There were a number of instances in the film where they unintentionally showed that big government couldn’t do everything or even be trusted to try. Which is kinda funny that even though the writers set out with a contrived outcome, they couldn’t totally pull it off just like what happens in reality when socialism is tried.
And while the movie will speak to our friends on the left, it was a slap in the face to Obama’s foreign policy.
Aside from the overt political message, it was an enjoyable movie. The political message did get in the way as several characters were acting out of character in their actions.
Remember that international hit Bay Babewatch? What they need islots of slow motion runs on a low gravity world in the new uniform.
Sounds like a return to the excessive, dubious and vomit inducing moralizing of the original series.
Yes, typical Roddenberryesque utopian nonsense.
Sounds like The Next Generation and Picard . . .
Well what to expect it is Star Trek after all. The stupid policies that make no sense in the real world are just one reason why I preferred to watch Babylon 5.
PS: What’s the problem with babes in underwear?
Nothing at all. More babes, less underwear.
Uh, or something like that.
Remember Lee Meriweather in “That Which Survives” and the navel-gaze suppressor?
Underwear or miniskirts.
If you end up reading Celestial Musings instead of Transterrestrial Musings then you’re at Celeste Yarnall’s website. She played Chekov’s love interest in “The Apple” (season 2, episode 9).
Just thought everyone should know that…
That was cool, thanks.
Lee Meriwether.
That bit about “awakening evil in ourselves” is the core of the liberal failure. The “evil in ourselves” never sleeps.
That’s why things like laws, and religion, and even mere etiquette exist — to foster self-discipline and help keep the monster under control.
I’m pretty sure the evil within me, that never sleeps these last few months, is a gut bacteria that can convert anything into CO2 and methane like a low-pressure boiling nuclear reactor, but maybe that’s just too much of a self-confession of evil to put out in the public domain.
Oh! You have one of those too! Mine’s been operating for years. I believe that I have personally saved Earth from an ice age. Carbon rules!!
“Beano — to suppress the evil within.”
Sounds like a winning ad campaign to me.
If only it would kill us rather than this continued torture.
I wasn’t inclined to see this movie before, and I’m even less so now.
I used to watch the original series as a kid; it was in rerun, and at the time the next generation series was around too, also in rerun.
From my perspective (that of a kid) the original was pretty good though had some very silly episodes. I didn’t notice any moralizing or politics in it (though it would have had to be really blatant for me to pick up on it at that age).
I did however notice the sanctimonious heavy-handed moralizing on the next generation series. That, plus I felt it had even more silly episodes, most of which I skipped.
Overall, I liked the original, but didn’t like the next generation (and still haven’t seen most of its episodes)
I’ve seen a few of the movies. I wasn’t impressed. Well, except for one that had whales… I loved it; because for most of it I was pretty sure it was a satire. (If you view it thinking it’s a satire, it’s actually pretty funny).
I have to say I’m not surprised that they’d go with heavy handed baloney in the new movie. Sounds to me like Star Trek is one of the many things that gets worse with age.
I got an idea for the next Trek.
There is this planet, see, where humans can’t breathe the air, and the Federation has to go there and get some supplies of dilithium.
The beings that live there are these “cat people”, who include this incredibly “hot” African American woman, and McCoy turns Spock into one of these cat people so he can get their confidence and get the dilithium.
Only Kirk doesn’t believe in any of this, thinking that “Spock and even McCoy have gone native”, and he uses this exoskeleton space-suit thing for himself and an “away team”, sorry, for a “transporter landing party” . . . well, I am still working on the rest.
My favorite ST series is DS9. I just finished watching the whole series on DVD. They didn’t moralize as much, they were in the middle of a hot war they were losing badly and weren’t above playing dirty tricks.
DS9 was much more insidious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zFTO8mOLTk
Just posted this comment: “I never found it conceivable that the Ferengi could have made it to the stars. They are a classic low-trust society, like Arabs or Sicilians or Southeast Asians. And an exceptionally larcenous one. That combination doesn’t produce the mix of cultural memes that encourage innovation and economic growth.”
I was just a kid when the first series came out so of course I love it. After all – before that I had “Lost in Space” which even as a kid I found…lacking. ST:TOS was far more “scientific” than Lost in Space, in my opinion.
I couldn’t stand The Next Generation. The moment Marina Sirtis (hot) said, “We of the Federation celebrate diversity” I shut it off.
The rest of them were no better.
I liked the first new ST movie (2009?). But in that movie I noticed that the writers/director were overly fond of people falling/jumping from great heights. Happened at least 3 times. In the trailer for the new one you see the same thing. So that’s a hint this movie could suck: no imagination.
Now Cumberbatch is a fabulous actor. I really like the BBC Sherlock series. So he’ll be pretty good.
I’ll go see the thing but my expectations have been lowered. For the above reasons as well as the fact that quite often, second movies in a series are a complete write off and the third is much better.
It was a film that exhorted the glorious leftist utopia of the future but somehow could not be obtained even with the unlimited power of Star Trek technology.
There were a number of instances in the film where they unintentionally showed that big government couldn’t do everything or even be trusted to try. Which is kinda funny that even though the writers set out with a contrived outcome, they couldn’t totally pull it off just like what happens in reality when socialism is tried.
And while the movie will speak to our friends on the left, it was a slap in the face to Obama’s foreign policy.
Aside from the overt political message, it was an enjoyable movie. The political message did get in the way as several characters were acting out of character in their actions.
Remember that international hit
BayBabewatch? What they need islots of slow motion runs on a low gravity world in the new uniform.