29 thoughts on “The Zimmerman Prosecutors

  1. ken anthony

    A founding principle of this country has been abandoned. Without rule of law all men are not created equal. That we can’t even disbar a small group of prosecutors (not that anyone has tried) tell us how big the problem is.

    America has been fundamentally changed but it started long before Obama. He’s just part of perhaps the final scene.

  2. Karl Hallowell

    to my surprise, I saw that there was a previous prosecutor on the Zimmerman case, Norm Wolfinger. He concluded that there was insufficient evidence to prosecute. He then was replaced by Governor Rick Scott (who is a Republican) with the current prosecutor, Angela Corey. The apparent basis of that replacement was a complaint from the Martin family attorney, who claimed that Wolfinger together with the police chief ignored evidence of Zimmerman’s guilt (and insinuates this was done at the behest of influential relatives of Zimmerman), particularly an alleged affidavit from Detective Chris Serino (lead homocide investigator in the case) who was said to claim that Zimmerman’s statements weren’t credible. But apparently Serino testified in court that Zimmerman’s statements were in substantial part credible.

    Finally, the prosecutor fired her IT director because of his alleged whistle blowing activities (the Prosecutor’s office was apparently withholding evidence), but in a way that would be highly damaging to his future career.

    This case stinks and I think we ought to review not just the prosecutor – possibly for criminal conduct, but also the people who appointed her.

    1. DaveP.

      This is the same Florida Republican Party that brought us Charlie “InstaTan Man” Crist. There’s some state parties that mean business, and some where the rot is so deep they might as well give it up and call themselves Democrats.

    2. Arizona CJ

      This is the same prosecutor, Corey, who tried to put a 12 year old away for life without parole.

      This fact, and others, were known before the governor appointed her. It’s also due to the governor’s order, later clarified to expand it, that Cory has the prosecution of Zimmerman’s wife, even though the alleged offense occurred outside of her jurisdiction.

      I absolutely condemn that governor for that, the same way I condemn Obama and Holder for the federal pressure in this case.

      Incidentally, this is one of the biggest differences I see between the average Democrat and the average Republican; Republicans are more willing (though sadly, not always) to go after Republicans who do something vile. Democrats are more prone to turn a blind eye when a democrat does it.

      I’m sure no fan of the Florida Republican party, which has brought us such disasters as Charlie Crist, Rick Scott, and Marco Rubio, and also redistricted right out of office one of the finest people ever to be elected to high office; Alan West.

  3. Larry J

    The fact that the prosecutors tried to hide evidence (deleted data on Martin’s cell phone) and that the IT tech who blew the whistle was fired suggests some people from that office should be facing criminal charges of their own.

  4. Arizona CJ

    I agree, the prosecutors should face charges. First and foremost, the phone… as I recall, it was turned over to the family for a while. (did they delete the texts?) Secondly, they didn’t turn over the info to the defense as required.

    The other massive misconduct I’m aware of is their deposition of that girlfriend, their “star witness”. They picked her up and drove her to the mother’s house, sat her on the couch beside the crying mother, and deposed here there. That was witness coercion. I also note that she can’t read cursive, but her written statement was in cursive. Just how does one write in a style one can’t read? And if she didn’t write it, who did, and how did it get into evidence?

    As for the verdict… I’m concerned. I don’t like the emotional nonsense the prosecution was using, and I don’t like how long they’ve been out, nor that they wanted a clarification on manslaughter.

    On the other hand… If I was on that, or any high profile case jury, I’d want to take quite a lot of time even if there was no doubt as to the verdict. Why? Because sure as hell, they’d get criticized for a snap verdict, and I’ll bet money that if they aquit, somebody will leak their names to the press. It would also not surprise me at all if we find out that they had been warned that that might happen (which would be jury tampering).

    I do think that the governor and the justice department deserve a huge chunk of the blame. So to does Obama, for interjecting himself into the fray and stoking the fire.

      1. Leland

        So far, it seems quiet. Apparently twitter is much like the rest of the internet. People talk a bit tougher in a virtual world than a real world.

        That’s not to say something won’t happen, but with the verdict coming around sundown; the rambunctious youth should be primed. They’re not. Its doubtful they’ll sleep on it and riot in the morning. Maybe a few hours for the alcohol to flow and the drunks to start fighting.

        In Chicago, there will be a fights and deaths this weekend. Already, an 8 yr old girl was killed in her home yesterday. A 22 yr old was killed this morning in a hit and run. Doubtful any of them look like the President, so who cares, right?

  5. Alan K. Henderson

    Don’t forget to put them in wooden stocks for a few days. I am dead serious. I normally oppose mandatory sentencing (erodes judges’ ability to factor in extenuating circumstances), but public humiliation absolutely MUST accompany criminal punishment for abuse of office. Wooden stocks in the public square is an excellent way to pull it off.

    1. wodun

      Except that Zimmerman was also a protected class. Under any other situation he would be callled hispanic. When has the media ever added the prefix of white to anyone of mixed race? Calling him white stripped Zimmerman of his ethnicity and placed the collective burden for any historical misdeed ever commited by white people.

      But that also fits the hierarchy of afirmitive action for those who champion it. It is like the OWS protests and determining who got to speak first. Women, transgenders, and racial minorities to the front of the line, men to the back of the line and white men at the very end.

      Zimmerman’s problem isn’t that he isn’t a protected class but that his class holds lesser rank and status. At OWS, Zimmerman would have spoken after Martin.

      1. Larry J

        As the InstaPundit notes, Zimmerman is more black (grandmother) than Homer Plessy of the Supreme Court’s Plessy v. Fergusson “separate but equal” decision. He’s also roughly as black as Tiger Woods (half Asian, black, Native American).

  6. cthulhu

    Sometimes there is apparently justice though; CNN is now reporting that Zimmerman has been acquitted.

  7. Larry J

    Now that Zimmerman has been acquitted, how long will it take for the same Justice Department that tried to forment riots to hit him with civil rights charges? My guess is by the end of this month.

    1. Arizona CJ

      Let’s also bear in mind that there are criminal charges against Zimmarman’s wife, for alleged perjury (misreporting their bank balance by committing the donations for his defense.) I think that’s normally be a wrist slap at worst, but in this case, I would not at all be surprised to see them throw the book at her (and probably charge him with perjury too).

      And let’s not forget a civil suit for “civil rights violations”.

      I’m delighted and relieved by the verdict… and I hope I’m wrong, but I doubt this is over.

  8. Trent Waddington

    I find it incredibly disturbing to hear all the liberals on my twitter feed questioning the validity of innocent until proven guilty. The fact that the prosecution failed to make their case seems almost irrelevant to them. “We’re supposed to just take his word?” Why yes, you are.

    1. M Puckett

      The ends justify the means, that is the mantra of the left Trent, the Law is nothing but a bludgeon to use against their enemies, not a process to be respected.

    2. George Turner

      Perhaps you should frame it as a girl checking her neighborhood because of threatening things going on from time to time, seeing someone acting suspicious, calling the police, and then getting jumped and beaten nearly senseless when she shoots her attacker. Then despite the best opinions of the sheriff, investigators, and prosecutor (who all get fired or replaced) she gets charged with murder.

      The new prosecutors withhold evidence to her defense team, interview a key witness in front of the victim’s family (which I think was even an element in “To Kill a Mockingbird”, but I may be mistaken), and then the judge disallows testimony that the guy who jumped her was a suspect in three prior rape cases, some burglaries, drug trafficking, gun trafficking, etc. Yet at trial even the prosecution witnesses either confirm her side of the story or reveal that they’ve been coached to lie, and the prosecution finally starts saying the attack was her fault because she should’ve been as strong as a football player and known how to take care of herself in a fight.

      Do they really want all the women who defend themselves against a rapist to spend 35 years to life in prison for not letting themselves get raped, butchered, or murdered?

      1. rickl

        This is what bothered me the most about this case. It seemed that the very concept of self-defense itself was on trial.

        Just how long was Zimmerman, or your hypothetical young woman, supposed to allow themselves to get beaten before they were justified in drawing their gun and ending it?

        Of course, the concept of self-defense implies self-ownership by the individual. A totalitarian state cannot tolerate that.

        1. Larry J

          Self defense is, practically speaking, illegal in the United Kingdom. People who defend themselves have been prosecuted. Self defense is the most fundamental of civil rights, which is why so many gun control laws were aimed at minorities.

  9. Barbara Skolaut

    “Do they really want all the women who defend themselves against a rapist to spend 35 years to life in prison for not letting themselves get raped, butchered, or murdered?”

    Well – yes, actually. >:-(

    1. George Turner

      I was in a thread where a bunch of liberal women were screaming “This means that it’s okay for grown men to kill innocent black teens!”, and so on.

      I was tempted to reply with:

      ****

      I wonder if this line of reasoning will spawn a new line of commercials?

      Cut 1:

      “Women follow me around all the time because I smell wonderful. I often sneak around behind them, jump out from the bushes, sucker punch them, beat their face in, and then slam their head into the concrete until they stop breathing and bleed out. Legally I can’t be touched because I’m 17, handsome, and they were following me. One shot me in the leg once, but she was sent to prison for 35 to life when I played the handsome teen victim of olfactory profiling card. Yes, I wear Old Spice. Women can’t resist it. Beat them. Kill them. Jail them for life. It’s all possible when you have the right fragrance – the fragrance that makes women follow you.”

      Cut 2:
      “One dark and rainy night I spied a woman who couldn’t get the full effect of my Old Spice – because it was raining. So I walked around her car several times and then wandered around in her yard, looking in her windows, until she grew suspicious enough to approach. When she was close enough for what should have been a wiff of my cologne, I sprang at her. I don’t know if she was overwhelmed by my wonderful fragrance or my sudden punch to her face, but she fell backwards in amazement as I pinned her to the ground and followed up with a series of stinging left and right blows to her head. She cried out, but when the police arrived I claimed the cry was from me. They realized that I was a handsome fragrant teen wearing Old Spice and let me go on my way, knowing women couldn’t physically or legally resist me, and then charged her with assault because my knuckles were bruised. It is the fragrance of simultaneous innocence and power. Old Spice.”

      1. Karl Hallowell

        Meh, don’t quit your day job, George. Introducing sexuality, rape, etc in a debate, especially with the fantasy style narrative you’re using, is a pile of unstable explosives waiting to go off. I doubt anyone in the group you’d be trying to convince would look past the rape fantasy stuff.

        The time to intercept this sort of thinking would have been when they first heard of the case, but in that case, they wouldn’t be listening to us. I think instead that we’ll just have to settle for public opinion moving on in a few weeks to some other cause. Zimmerman will still have to deal with whatever gimmicks the feds decide to throw at him, but I think most of the worst is over.

  10. dcguy

    the zimmerman trial survived summary judgement, so it wasn’t totally crap.
    the state had enough to make a bare showing that they had something.

    They had one witness saying Zimmerman was on top, they had one witness saying it was Martin screaming for help, they had evidence Zimmerman was following Martin. You can imply a lot into that.

    However, there were lots of holes. Sufficient to form reasonable doubt, which is
    why the local police didn’t want to file, and the local prosecutors wanted to pass it to a grand jury.

    It’s good there was a trial, it got out in front of people.

    1. Tom W

      Unless, of course, your name is George Zimmerman and you just spent way to much $$$ trying to defend yourself from a really un-winnable case (for prosecution).

    2. Daver

      Pretty much the only people who saw the real evidence were the people at the trial and the ones who followed it on a select number of blogs. The ones following it on those blogs were by and large the choir–people who believed the State didn’t have a case from the beginning. The vast majority of people paying any attention were following the trial on the MSM and got the viewpoint presented by the MSM–Zimmerman was using the stand your ground defense which is a license for white guys to shoot and kill black boys.

      It would have been good to go to trial if the State had had a case, but it didn’t, and I expect the State was competent enough to know it didn’t. This was pure politics, and most likely we’ve only seen the end of Part I of the Zimmerman Trial by Mob.

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