Very few are buying the IRS’s fairy tales:
In fact, an objective assessment of the Republicans conduct over more the course of the 14 months since this scandal broke has been relatively apolitical, especially considering that the IRS is charged with executing a partisan vendetta against conservatives. By and large, members have avoided bombast and overreach in pursuit of the facts surrounding the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups. The Republicans’ prudence in concert with the IRS’s improbable self-defense has resulted in a great majority of the country backing the GOP in this matter.
Republicans and Democrats, women and men, blacks and whites, the rich and the poor, the old and the young; according to a recent poll, the vast majority of the public across the political spectrum believe this matter deserves a thorough investigation – one which results in accountability.
Accountability to these people is like a cross and garlic to a vampire.
And no, it’s not the IRS that’s the victim here:
Specifically, says NOM, the group’s 2008 tax return and donor list was turned over to activist Matthew Meisel, who then gave it to the Human Rights Campaign which distributed it to the media.
Not surprisingly, since the leaked information was used against their last presidential candidate, Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee took an interest in the case. Congressional pressure may well have induced the IRS to surrender, admit error, and turn over a little cash it mugged from other taxpayers to make nice with NOM, but it couldn’t get the Department of Justice to take an interest in the case. Shocker.
“The DOJ’s refusal to take any action to protect taxpayers demonstrates why this Committee, and the American people, cannot trust their supposed investigation into the IRS targeting, let alone the protection of the constitutional rights of conservatives,” complained House Ways and Means Chairman Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.) the day the settlement was announced.
Well, same as it ever was. The IRS has never been a safe tool in any administration’s hands. It never will be, so long as it remains such a tempting weapon for whoever wields its excessive power.
Camp wants a special prosecutor to look into the IRS’s behavior. But that behavior is inevitable, so long as a government body as dangerous as the IRS is allowed to exist.
People need to be jailed for this.
Jim says the IRS, FEC, and DOJ were just doing their job so it should be anytime that all three of those organizations crack down on people who leaked confidential information to influence an election and the Democrat activist groups that participated. Right?
I am sure those three government organization are currently coordinating a cross-agency plan of action to hold these people accountable because it is their job to do so.
members have avoided bombast and overreach in pursuit of the facts
It is to laugh. For overreach we have the House GOP issuing a press release stating “we now know documents from other central figures, like Nikole Flax, are missing,” only to subsequently admit that they know no such thing. For bombast we have Darrell Issa lecturing the IRS commissioner on how high to raise his right hand before giving testimony, and then describing that testimony to an eager Fox News audience as “one step shy of perjury.”
so long as a government body as dangerous as the IRS is allowed to exist
Yesterday we learned that Blackwater successfully stopped a State Department investigation of contract irregularities by threatening to kill the State Department investigators. That seems quite a bit more dangerous than leaking NOM’s tax return. Should security contractors like Blackwater be allowed to exist?
Uttering death threats? Why, there oughta be a law against such a thing! What? You mean there already is such a law on the books? Gee, I wonder why the Justice department hasn’t charged anyone….
“members have avoided bombast and overreach in pursuit of the facts
It is to laugh.”
You left out all of the examples of Democrat’s bombast. Is that because you don’t think there has been any or because you don’t care what #teamObama does?
“For overreach we have the House GOP issuing a press release stating “we now know documents from other central figures, like Nikole Flax, are missing,” only to subsequently admit that they know no such thing.”
And you keep saying that nothing is missing despite destroyed hard drives. How can you say that nothing is missing?
“Yesterday we learned that Blackwater”
I am not sure what Blackwater has to do with Obama’s persecution of political dissidents. Are you saying that Blackwater’s actions excuse Obama’s? or that both are wrong and should be held accountable? or that only Blackwater should be held accountable?
I think you are going for a mix of number one and number three.
“That seems quite a bit more dangerous than leaking NOM’s tax return.”
Was the government threatening to kill people? Because with NOM and the rest of the business with Obama’s IRS, it is the government going after citizens.
“Should security contractors like Blackwater be allowed to exist?”
So you have this idea in your head that Blackwater is terrible and does horrible things and you use them as justification for Obama doing horrible things? I never thought I would see the day Democrats used Blackwater to excuse the conduct of Obama. He is really pulling you down in the mud isn’t he?
“Yesterday we learned that Blackwater”
I am not sure what Blackwater has to do with Obama’s persecution of political dissidents.
This is known as the “SQUIRREL!” technique, of which Jim is a master. It has nothing to do with the IRS or the topic of the thread but is a lame attempt to change the subject.
You left out all of the examples of Democrat’s bombast.
I never claimed the Democrats were free of bombast. The writer made that false claim about the GOP.
How can you say that nothing is missing?
I haven’t said that nothing is missing. I don’t know why you keep repeating that I have.
Are you saying
The quoted article hyperbolically claims that the IRS is too dangerous to exist. I’m saying that if there are bodies that are too dangerous to be allowed to exist, private security contractors are much higher on that list than the IRS.
That’s stupid. I don’t have to deal with private security contractors. I don’t think that Blackwater can possibly pose as big a threat to so many people as the IRS can and does.
I don’t have to deal with private security contractors
Others aren’t so lucky.
But pretty much everyone has to deal with the IRS.
Others aren’t so lucky.
Indeed some State Department employees were denied access to security and they died. I’m glad to hear Jim call for investigations, and we should start with actual deaths rather than death threats.
I almost forgot about the VA deaths. Why be concerned about alleged death threats when we know hundreds of our veterans were denied healthcare they earned and dozens may have died waiting for it, while government employees received bonuses for hiding the truth. We should investigate that too. Call in a special prosecutor and lets get going on it.
I think the number is over a thousand now. We may find that more of our vets died from incompetence at home than did in Iraq.
“I never claimed the Democrats were free of bombast.”
No, you just omitted any reference to it and in the context of your comment, blamed Republicans as the sole source of bombast. The same thing you claim to be criticizing the guy at the link for.
“I haven’t said that nothing is missing.”
You keep saying no emails are missing from the destroyed hd of Flax’s work computer while at the same time saying we don’t know what was on the hd. You are trying to have it both ways, as usual.
“are much higher on that list than the IRS.”
Well, we already know where fighting government corruption lies on the Democrat’s list of priorities, at the bottom. There are an infinite number of things that are higher on your list than dealing with the Obama administration’s use of government agencies to persecute political dissidents. If Blackwater broke some laws, they should be held accountable the same as Obama. We have an enormous legal system that can handle prosecuting more than one case at a time.
It is ridiculous to argue that we can’t hold the Obama administration and the Democrats accountable for their intentional abuse of government power and the citizenry until all of the things higher up on Democrat’s priority list are handled first.
You keep saying no emails are missing from the destroyed hd of Flax’s work computer while at the same time saying we don’t know what was on the hd.
I’ve never said that nothing is missing. You keep insisting that I have. If you are correct, why don’t you post a link?
Just go back and read your own comments. Once is enough for me.
You say things like, “Republicans are lying that emails are missing.” That clearly implies that nothing is missing otherwise Republicans wouldn’t be liars, right? You make the absolute claim that no emails are missing despite also claiming the IRS policy is to store emails on hard drives rather than on a server.
It really doesn’t matter what you said last week because you will just change your story after the Obama administrations story crumbles, again.
But here is your link, typical Jim
/sigh, the link doesn’t work but you can figure it out…