17 thoughts on “Jordan Peterson And The Left”

  1. If “The Weekly Standard” was anything like MSM is for dem, it might have worked.
    Or Dems stupid, was they thought The Weekly Standard
    was just like NYT was for lefties.

    “A few hours after the Standard piece went online, Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook reinforced Kristol’s message in an interview on CNN. Desperate to change the subject from DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s pending resignation, Mook also claimed the Russians were behind the DNC’s computer hack because Putin wanted Trump to win.”
    https://amgreatness.com/2018/08/15/the-weekly-standards-ties-to-fusion-gps/
    Linked from:
    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/

  2. Does anyone think Italy was ever great?
    It seems to me that one could make that case.

    It’s recent alliance with Nazi Germany was not too great- though it probably was thought to be a great plan or at least to be practical idea.
    But if compared to say Sweden I think could imagine that Italy is great- comparatively.

    I would imagine Andrew Cuomo parents though the US was great, and moved from Italy because they thought US was better place to live than Italy. Though maybe, it was just some random place to move to.

    Anyhow Andrew Cuomo saying the US was never that great- So a country that overthrew Italy, and crushed the evil Germany and Japanese governments- was not that great.
    And before that defeated Great Britian and forged government no one thought had any chance of surviving for very long- and then transformed all nations on Earth as result.
    Anyhow an article about Andrew Cuomo :
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/andrew-cuomo-failed-governor-failed-politician/

    Which correctly points out the obvious that Andrew Cuomo has not been a great leader.
    And I would think, that even compared to Dems in general, probably below average- but not lowest of the low [which is a very low level to get to].

    1. “Does anyone think Italy was ever great?”

      Well…Italian food and wine is great. Not as great as French food and wine, but pretty good.

      The anchovies in Cinque Terre are to die for.

      Last time Italy was great as a “nation” was when it was the center of the Roman Empire.

      1. Au contraire, mon frere. There are only two really great culinary civilizations, the Chinese and the Italian. Marco Polo was their link. French cuisine, in contrast, is largely based on ladling fancy sauce over inferior meat.

        1. Dick,

          Beg to respectfully disagree. The ramekin of escargot in champagne sauce covered with a puff pastry was untouchable by any Italian cuisine.

          Prossecco is very good; anything from Champagne is better.

          But I’ll agree to this:

          Both countries (France and Italy) have a level of food that is rarely matched in the US – even at the dive-iest resto in the tiniest of towns.

          Chinese? Meh

          1. Agree that it is – regrettably – much easier to find a bad meal in the U.S. than in either Italy or France. I never did succeed (?) in finding a bad meal in Italy. I’ve had some bad French meals – most of them involving beef. I wasn’t impressed by escargot regardless of recipe.

            I’ll grant you that French wine is superior pretty much across the board. The French stuff smells like wine and much of the Italian stuff smells of vinegar. That seems to be how the Italians prefer it for some unknown reason. Not being a drinker of any sort of alcohol, I stuck to bottled water during my time in Europe so wine of any sort wasn’t really an issue for me.

            I can only pity anyone who has no appreciation of Chinese cuisine. Of course I live in California where access to good Chinese food is not only trivial, owing to the state’s large restaurant-operating Asian population, but is also regarded as something close to a civil right. If you, perchance, live in some one of the vanishingly few remaining areas of the United States in which the only available restaurant Chinese food is some variant of Chop Suey I can understand – and redouble my pity – for your lamentable situation.

          2. “I’ve had some bad French meals – most of them involving beef. ”

            Had a beef dish at the restaurant in my hotel in Verdun (visiting the battlefield) Hostellerie du Coq Hardi.

            Outstandingly superb.

            “I wasn’t impressed by escargot regardless of recipe.”
            Well one either likes escargot or does not.

            I have not samples this West Coast Chinese you speak of so I can’t comment. But like Mexican food in the US I suspect it’s not really Chinese either.

            No matter. I see enough gustatory commonality to appreciate european greatness.

  3. Thing I like about listening to Peterson is when he discusses ancient religions. He takes their pantheon and beliefs and clearly shows how the ancients understood human nature extremely well.

    They might have been technologically backwards, but they weren’t blind or stupid.

    Which is a fact I’ve always known but never applied to their religions.

    1. Any long-standing, popular religion is basically a codification of behaviour that kept a culture alive. Mostly because religions that codified behaviour that destroyed their culture… well, they destroyed their culture and didn’t survive.

      The Boomers, of course, had to overthrow all of that because feelz. Just because a behaviour has worked for thousands of years, doesn’t mean Boomers should follow it. Particularly the ones who wanted to destroy the West.

      I’m not really a believer in Christianity, but I’d much rather live in a Christian society than what we have today.

      1. I’m an atheist myself, but I’ll also give your preference a hearty Amen. I, too, have noticed that atheism is hardly in an identity relationship with wisdom. Christians believe in a modest, and sharply bounded, list of things I don’t. On the other hand, atheists of the most common variety – leftists – seem to have no obvious upper limit at all on the amount of nonsense they will believe.

        1. There is also a difference between atheists who were once religious or are of a certain (older) generation and the younger ones today who didn’t arrive at their destination deliberately. There is a lack of rational thought, understanding of philosophy, and no comprehension of what it means to be human among most of these new age atheists.

          Many of them view themselves as higher evolved than other humans but they are rarely self aware of their own irrationalities and tendency to engage in magical thinking. This means they end up acting like humans in their most primitive state.

    2. The multiple gods of polytheistic religions are generally just people with some particular aspect of personality exaggerated – and with powers, of course. That is also true, really, of the Judeo-Christian Jehovah and the Islamic Allah, though the latter is noteworthy for being even more bloodthirsty, aggressive and authoritarian than the Judeo-Christian god he was cribbed from.

      As for technology, that of both the Greeks and Romans was quite sophisticated in many respects. Both civilizations were a looooong way from “flint knives and bearskins” if I may quote a well-known Spock-ism.

      1. “As for technology, that of both the Greeks and Romans was quite sophisticated in many respects. ”

        Agreed. I visited a museum in Segovia Spain that had plumbing (not really “plumbing” but whatever you call large scale, city sized waterworks devices) devices found by the huge aquaduct. They looked identical to the ones used by workers today.

        I read a while back that after the Fall of the Roman Empire, we did not get BACK UP to Roman levels of tech until the 1700’s.

      2. aggressive and authoritarian than the Judeo-Christian god he was cribbed from.

        It is amazing that many people who claim to be the most cosmopolitan and multi cultural don’t actually understand other cultures. They often say that all Christian denominations believe the same thing and that Muslims worship the same god as the Christians.

        Yes, we can all see how religions have influenced each other but this new claim that Allah and God are the same thing is incredibly wrong.

  4. Another reason the left hates Peterson is that he is an apostate. He’s a psychologist who not only accepts politically unpleasant data but teaches them to undergraduates and now even non-students.

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