Some of the nuke types over on Twitter have been discussing this. It would have beaten Sputnik to space, but not to earth orbit.
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Our Gut Bacteria
This topic came up in comments at yesterday’s nutrition post, but new research indicates that tampering with them may significantly reduce the risk of stroke.
Obama’s Legacy
He will leave his successor with more Middle East disasters than he inherited.
To be fair, he had a lot of help from Hillary and Kerry.
XCOR
…has a new board. Greason, Fleming (whose name they misspelled) are out. They say “as the Lynx nears completion,” but I wonder about that.
The Imperial First Lady
The government is threatening to fine schools for not following Michelle’s child-abusive lunch program.
I wonder if someone could file a lawsuit demanding to see the science behind her recommendations? Because there is none.
The Cover Up Continues To Unravel
Another federal judge has ruled against the State Department and Hillary.
“Most transparent administration in history.”
The California Crazy Train
The latest on the fiscal insanity, from the LA Times. This is driven by religion, not rationality.
In A Republic
…the people ultimately decide. Some of my expanded thoughts on what the Senate’s “job” is, over at Ricochet.
The Atlas V
…dodged a bullet on the Cygnus launch last week. If it had been a mission failure, it would have been its first.
Europa With Falcon Heavy
I was running some numbers, and just got a surprising result. I’m wondering if someone can check my work.
The AIAA paper by Boeing, presented in Pasadena last fall, has a reference mission of 8.3 MT thrown at Jupiter for the fast trip with no gravity assists with the Block 2 cargo version. They specify a C3 of about 85 km^2/s^2. Here’s the table I’m looking at.
When I back that out, I end up with a departure velocity from LEO of about 6.5 km/s. With a stage fraction of 0.1 (that is, the ratio of the stage dry weight to loaded weight) and an Isp of 465 (referencing RL-10), and sixty tonnes in LEO (that’s the latest I’m hearing for FH with the upgraded cores), I can do that mission with a single flight. If we do two flights, I can throw 24 MT. Here’s my spreadsheet. Am I getting something wrong? Because that implies that they could do an even bigger mission with a 130 MT SLS. Here’s my spreadsheet.
[Update a few minutes later]
OK, I do see one slight problem, but I don’t think it affects my results much. I sized the “rubber” stage to the 2nd-stage requirement, so it’s probably a little undersized for the first stage. That is, when I change the payload mass, I get a slightly different propellant load in the first stage, though in actuality it should be independent of that.
[Update a few minutes later]
I’m wondering if the problem they have is that the EUS is oversized for the mission, so it wastes a lot of propellant shoving the parasitic stage mass? If so, that would be kind of hilarious.
But it is also possible that I’ve done the calculation wrong, which is why I’d like more eyes on my work.
[Update a couple minutes later]
D’oh!!
I do see an error. I double the potential energy as well as the kinetic when solving for departure velocity in line 13. BRB.
[Update a few minutes later]
OK, I guess I was wrong when I said I was wrong. Still not seeing the problem, if there is one.
[Update a while later]
I should note that the numbers don’t look obviously wrong, or bother me intuitively. I’m just trying to understand the disparity with the SLS mission, which supposedly has twice the throw weight.
[Late-afternoon update]
Looking at the Wikipedia page for EUS (I know, but it’s usually not a bad source for things like this), mass properties are pretty scarce. All it says is that it can carry 129,000 MT of propellant, which makes no sense, since that’s the throw weight of the SLS, and leaves no margin for structure. So huh. It’s almost like the whole program is a Bravo Sierra jobs program.
[March 28th update]
I just had an email exchange with one of the paper’s authors. They are using the Block 1B configuration, which only has 105 tonne capability. So my numbers seem to be right.
[Bumped]