No, despite the illogic of the Democrats, it’s not the Republicans’ fault. There is no responsibility on their part to attempt to implement an atrocious law that they rightly opposed, or to stop trying to repeal it when it’s clearly going to be so damaging to the nation’s economy and our personal health and freedom.
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Democrats opposed Bush’s Medicare Part D, which like Obamacare (and most major new programs) was initially unpopular and plagued with implementation problems. But instead of rubbing Bush’s nose in it they helped pass tweaks to the law that improved its functioning, serving their constituents even at the cost of making a Bush initiative more popular.
With Obamacare, by contrast, the GOP is pursuing a Leninist strategy, figuring that the worse things go for the public, the better things will be for them.
That’s because Democrats love big-government programs. Why repeal one, when they can just make it more to their liking? That doesn’t mean that Republicans should go along with their fascistic plans.
“But instead of rubbing Bush’s nose in it they…”
Umm what? Democrats are still going after Bush for Medicare Part D. By still I mean that they started before it was passed and then have continued ever since. You bring it up at least once a week.
“With Obamacare, by contrast, the GOP is pursuing a Leninist strategy, figuring that the worse things go for the public, the better things will be for them.”
You mean like Obama’s sequestration strategy?
Whatever Obamacare does to make things bad for people has nothing to do with Republicans and everything to do with those who wrote the legislation, Democrats.
Democrats: “Hey we wrote this bill but turns out that none of us knew what was in it and didn’t listen to anyone about the problems that our bill would cause. The Republicans need to fix this for us or we will continue to blame them for everything that went wrong. Oh, we will blame them anyway even if they fix things.”
What are Republicans supposed to fix? The problems are legion. Congress could work all day every day for the next twenty years and still not fix all the problems because the underlying cause of all the problems is Obamacare itself.
BTW, I and many others predicted that Democrats would blame the Republicans for everything that went wrong before this bill was ever passed.
Democrats are still going after Bush for Medicare Part D.
Did they refuse to vote for tweaks to the law? Did they call on citizens to boycott it, or to burn their Medicare cards? Of course not. They helped make it a better law, and supported its implementation.
everything to do with those who wrote the legislation, Democrats
That’s right — errors in the legislation are the fault of the authors. But legislation almost always has errors, no matter who wrote it. That shouldn’t be a problem: errors can be corrected, and in the past it was routine for Congress to revisit laws and fix the problems that have been identified. The novelty here is the GOP’s blanket unwillingness to do so.
in the past it was routine for Congress to revisit laws and fix the problems that have been identified.
In the past it was routine for Congress to pass monstrosities like this with bi-partisan support.
In the past, members of Congress didn’t have to pass 2000+ pages bills to find out what was in it.
In the past, members of Congress didn’t have to pass 2000+ pages bills to find out what was in it.
Really? Obamacare is the first major law to have unintended consequences?
In the past it was routine for Congress to pass monstrosities like this with bi-partisan support.
Indeed — the GOP’s deliberate and near unanimous obstruction is a novelty as well. It was supposed to make the law unpopular (it did), and deny Obama reelection (it didn’t). It isn’t clear what purpose it serves now, but at this point it’s become a habit that will be difficult to break.
Really? Obamacare is the first major law to have unintended consequences?
Unintended consequences? They didn’t even read the damned thing! Just when I thought you couldn’t get any dumber or your head any further up Obama’s ass, you prove me wrong. There seem no limits to your stupidity or how far you’ll stick your head up his ass.
Indeed — the GOP’s deliberate and near unanimous obstruction is a novelty as well.
I find it interesting how you can’t be bothered to complain about an extremely bad bill, but you can complain because a political party attempted to block said extremely bad bill. My view is that the obstruction was not only warranted, it has helped to some degree the survival and prosperity of the US. Imagine what other destructive abominations the Democrats could have passed, if they hadn’t squandered their political capital on Obamacare!
Indeed — the GOP’s deliberate and near unanimous obstruction is a novelty as well.
A welcome one. There is certainly nothing either illegal or unconstitutional about it. In fact, it is the sort of thing that the Founders anticipated, as a remedy against the passage of awful laws.
With Obamacare, by contrast, the GOP is pursuing a Leninist strategy, figuring that the worse things go for the public, the better things will be for them.
No offense, but I thought that was Obama’s strategy. When Obamacare failed, it’d create the conditions for passage of single payer.
So Obama attaches his name to a law that he hopes will fail, so that a decade or two from now, when the Dems next have the House, presidency and 60 Senate votes, they can pass single-payer? Um, no.
Well, as you say Obama did attach his name to this law. That precondition implies a great deal of stupidity right there. I suppose I could be less charitable and say that he didn’t have a clue what the law would do.
You have to remember that to Baghdad Jim, the GOP doing anything to deter or limit or impede an Il Dufe power-grab is a BAD thing. Statists are weird like that.
So Republicans can disobey any law they like? I thought Republicans wanted to follow the “rule of law.”
I think “rule of law” does not mean what Republicans seem to think it means. (Apologies to Inigo Montoya.)
What law are the Republicans disobeying?
The Affordable Health Care Act AKA “Obamacare.”
What particular aspect of that law are the Republicans disobeying? Please cite the relevant part of the statute.
When you say There is no responsibility on their part to attempt to implement an atrocious law that they rightly opposed that’s wrong and defacto disobeying a law. It’s like saying that “there is no responsibility on the part of drivers to obey the speed limit if they think it’s too slow.”
When you say There is no responsibility on their part to attempt to implement an atrocious law that they rightly opposed that’s wrong and defacto disobeying a law.
There is nothing in the law that requires Congress to implement it (hint: that’s the responsibility of the executive branch). They are not even legally required to fund it. In fact, the only person violating the law of ObamaCare is the president.
Thanks for the demonstration of your constitutional and legal ignorance, though.
Geez, if the average Chicago voter is represented by Gerrib, no wonder that city is screwed.
When you say “There is no responsibility on their part to attempt to implement an atrocious law that they rightly opposed” that’s wrong and defacto disobeying a law.
What law is Rand disobeying? Oh, you meant Congress?
The Affordable Health Care Act AKA “Obamacare.”
Chris, point to the clause that Congress is disobeying. I’ll just note however that a law requiring Congress to implement laws that it passes would be itself unconstitutional (and hence, unlawful) for several reasons (such as granting an exclusively executive branch power to Congress and trying to amend the Constitution with legislative actions).