Looking back, fifteen years later.
That episode was the point at which the Democrats lost me permanently, as a party of shameless corruption.
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Looking back, fifteen years later.
That episode was the point at which the Democrats lost me permanently, as a party of shameless corruption.
Comments are closed.
I’d be much happier if your post was titled.
Impeachment
moving forward.
Then again, your title would look pretty sweet in 2029 or 2030 or so. Let’s hope we live long enough to see it.
The House GOP can Impeach President Obama right now, make it the key issue of 2014
and make every senate race about the impeachment bill
Remember what the Democrats were proposing as an alternative to impeachment? They said that Congress should vote to “censure, and move on.” Well, after Clinton escaped conviction, they DIDN’T censure. But that, by the way, is how MoveOn.org got its name.
They wanted to move on, because they knew if Paula Jones ever got her day in court, she might just win.
Impeach Obama? And convict him in a Senate that is now under Democratic control and might (might!) be in Republican hands by a couple of seats come 2015?
Can you market what you’re smoking? You’ll make a fortune.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Jones#Conclusion_of_case
She got $200,000, ended up divorced, broke, and posing for Penthouse.
War on women.
Do you believe in any of the things that are supposed to be core Democrat values? If you do, wouldn’t that mean holding your own party to those standards?
Paula Jones had a very weak case.
It didn’t meet the standards of law
“Was severe OR pervasive,
Created a hostile or abusive working environment,
Was unwelcome, and
Was based on the plaintiff’s gender”
She needed to show how being brought to meet the Clinton was “Severe or Pervasive” and “Created a hostile working environment”.
Paula Jones never showed any damages at trial. The whole thing was a waste of court time.
I don’t doubt Clinton was a cad and trying to bag everything with a pulse, but, that’s not a civil tort, nor a crime.
Lying-Guy: If her case was weak, how did she walk away with a settlement for the entire amount of her claim? Yeah, I’m not buying your BS. Also not impressed with the war on woman, “we broke her and ruined her marriage. Yeah Democrats!” As Wodun asks, do you have any real values?
“That episode was the point at which the Democrats lost me permanently, as a party of shameless corruption”
Me, too. Perjury is a crime. Clinton was guilty.
But it was also the point at which the Republicans lost me (pretty much permanently) as the party of stupid. You don’t start impeachment proceedings (an inherently political process) without counting votes.
If they counted and thought they had the votes in the Senate to impeach, they were stupid. They didn’t come close.
If they counted and didn’t think they had the votes in the Senate to impeach and went ahead anyway, they were incredibly stupid.
If they didn’t count noses in the Senate, they monumentally stupid.
There aren’t any more possibilities.
I think you are wrong. I think it was smart to proceed against a very popular Democrat President.
It will be easier next time, in case it’s necessary……..
…….and it’s beginning to look like it is.
The situation was fluid. The Republicans were sure that once the country had heard the evidence, Senators would feel pressure to vote to convict. Instead the public’s reaction was basically: why are we turning D.C. upside-down over this? Yes, Clinton’s private behavior was gross, but we kind of suspected that all along. We’re at peace, the economy’s booming, and the House Republicans (who have their own share of sex scandals) have pushed this way too far.
I see you want to perpetuate the lie that this was about Clinton’s “private behavior.” It was not, unless you consider suborning perjury via bribery and physical bodily threats to potential witnesses’ family members to be “private behavior.” This kind of ongoing lie is why I hold you and your party in such contempt, and unfit for power over others.
I think I accurately described the public’s take. If the Republicans had succeeded in convincing the public that it was about bribery and obstruction of justice, and not about lying to cover up an affair, things would have turned out differently.
In other words, if the media had reported it honestly, things would have turned out differently. But they lied about it all along, just as you are.
The situation was not fluid. It was cut and dried. Clinton committed perjury. The Republicans had the votes to impeach but not to convict because every Democrat and several Republicans would vote to acquit for the “reason” that perjury about sex isn’t perjury. That was the situation.
The Democrats were corrupt. The Republicans were stupid.
Clinton’s obstruction of justice went far beyond his own perjury.
The Bush Administration had plenty of time to pursue an
“Obstruction of Justice” inquiry, and Ken Starr, in his
5 years on the trail, never filed charges for this.
Funny.
Rand Simberg knows the law better then Ashcroft and Starr.
The next time you provide an intelligent comment here will be the first, Douchenozzle.
Um Lying-Guy; Clinton was impeached by the House for Obstruction of Justice and Perjury. He was acquitted by the Senate. How many times do you think the US Constitution allows to prosecute a person for the same crime?
Democrrats seem to think student interns are sacks of meat you stick your dick in. War on women and all. I agree Republicans have plenty of sex scandals but shouldn’t Democrats hold their own to the same standards they hold others?
Also, we were not at peace. We were under constant attack by Iraq while enforcing the no fly zone. The situation in Iraq under Clinton led to the Iraq war under Bush. I am not surprised that Democrats would try and forget what our troops were going through in another country while following the orders of a Democrat President. It is sort of like Afghanistan were Democrats ignore Obama’s failed strategies effects on our troops.
Obama is pushing the limit with his lawlessness. He has directly violating the Constitution. Countless times.
Once people – children – start dying (next year) due to lack of coverage, it will be all over for Obama.
He is playing with life and death of his own citizens….a very dangerous game.
Committee meetings have been held to talk about this very lawlessness.
We are seeing Tyranny up front, close, direct, and personal.
Like what you see?
Congressional action begins:
“On December 3, 2013, the House Judiciary Committee held a hearing titled, “The President’s Constitutional Duty to Faithfully Execute the Laws.” ”
At the conclusion of the hearing, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte issued a summary statement, which includes the following selected remarks,
The President’s far-reaching claims of executive power, if left unchecked, will vest the President with broad domestic policy authority that the Constitution does not grant him.
We must resist the President’s deliberate pattern of circumventing the legislative branch in favor of administrative decision making.
We cannot allow the separation of powers enshrined in our Constitution to be abandoned in favor of an undue concentration of power in the executive branch. As James Madison warned centuries ago in Federalist 47, “the accumulation of all powers legislative, executive and judiciary, in the same hands . . . may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.”
From:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/can_we_talk_about_impeachment.html
Once people – children – start dying (next year) due to lack of coverage, it will be all over for Obama.
During the ACA debates Republicans (and conservative Democrats like Joe Lieberman) were offended by the suggestion that lack of health insurance coverage could cause needless deaths. And now that’s going to be the basis for bringing Obama down? What does that say about governors like Rick Perry who refuse federal money that would give coverage to millions in their states? Will there be blood on their hands too?
As is completely typical, and utterly predictable of you, you totally miss the point:
Obama will be impeached for multiple, egregious, violations of the Constitution; abuse of his office; tyrannical overreach; lawless actions that far exceed the powers granted to him by the Constitution…… THAT will be what’s in the articles of impeachment.
The *CATALYST*…….most importantly………the reason it will be politically and socially OK to impeach him will be the scores of dead/dying people because of Obamacare. That will be pressure not even Reid and Pelosi can withstand.
When the universe crashes everyone will be scrambling to save their skins – Fascist Leftist, Socialist, politicians and the Main Stream Media will have no further use for Obama because he cannot push their agenda and they will happily sacrifice him to try to save their own skins.
That will fail too.
Jim, a friend of mine had her MS medicine cut from her insurnce policy. WTG Obamacare.
What does that have to do with Obamacare?
Obamacare is more than just a website Jim. People losing their doctors and losing access to treatments are just a few of the consequences of the legislation. Good thing my friend didn’t speak to the media or she would be getting an IRS audit right now.