Bring on the warming.
[Via Planet Gore]
[Update mid morning]
Here’s my question for those who insist that the current warming trend is a result of the Industrial Revolution: if so, then what is your explanation for all of the previous temperature spikes? Why should we assume that this one, and this one only, is a result of CO2 build up, and not simply part of the natural cycle (which is what it appears to be in the longer view) and a coincidence?
[Update a few minutes later]
You, too, can cash in on AGW alarmism:
[Another update a couple minutes later]
And why should we not get to see the models and data?
…soon after my request was fired off, I was informed by NCAR’s counsel that the organization is, in fact, not a federal agency—because its budget is laundered through the National Science Foundation—and thus is under no obligation to provide information to the public.
“Why don’t you put all your e-mails online for everyone to see?” Trenberth helpfully suggested to me. “My e-mail is none of your business.”
Now, generally, I would agree. It’s every American citizen’s hallowed duty to mind his or her own freaking business—except in those rare instances when one of those citizens happens to be a taxpayer-funded eco-crusader utilizing his appointed station in life to promote policy that sticks its nose into the lives of every American.
I’m afraid snarky columnizing, on the other hand, is not federally funded—at least not yet.
In fact, Trenberth’s work is one reason the nation is moving toward rationed energy use via cap-and-trade legislation. His work is one reason the Environmental Protection Agency, through its endangerment findings on carbon emissions, can regulate industry by decree. It is Trenberth’s government-financed science that drives public policy across this country. Yet Trenberth has less accountability to the public than the local parks department.
He is not alone. The Competitive Enterprise Institute—one of those troglodyte-funded, big-screen-television-loving outfits—was forced to file three notices of intent to file suit against NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, demanding the organization provide documents and raw data that were requested under the Freedom of Information Act three years ago.
Chris Horner, an attorney and senior fellow at CEI working on the NASA case, says of NCAR: “Without government, these jobs would not exist; that is a reasonable threshold test to determine whether documents should be available to the taxpayer.”
But if they release it to us, we might know just how extensive the fraud is.
[Update early afternoon]
Now Russian papers are claiming that the CRU cherry-picked Russian thermometers:
Analysts say Russian meteorological stations cover most of the country’s territory, and that the Hadley Center had used data submitted by only 25% of such stations in its reports.
Over 40% of Russian territory was not included in global-temperature calculations for some other reasons, rather than the lack of meteorological stations and observations.
The data of stations located in areas not listed in the Hadley Climate Research Unit Temperature UK (HadCRUT) survey often does not show any substantial warming in the late 20th century and the early 21st century.
Gee, whyever would they do that?
It would certainly explain the “warming” in Siberia. More Mann-caused phenomena.
[Update a couple minutes later]
Wait a minute. I just reread that. It wasn’t the CRU — it was the Hadley Centre. So, is this collusion, confirmation bias, what?
Why should we assume that this one, and this one only, is a result of CO2 build up, and not simply part of the natural cycle (which is what it appears to be in the longer view) and a coincidence?
Because this is the first crisis that fits their political agenda they have been pushing since the mid-1800’s. That is to take over and control all means of production within society.
It would serve the Warmers right if someone does cook up a true energy silver-bullet. I’m thinking solid-state 95%+ efficient proton/boron-11 fusion reactor with a power-to-weight of a kilowatt per kilogram or better.
And then shows off his new invention by throwing it in his Hummer and running AC and heat at the same time 24/7 at his house. I’m sure an environmental crisis based on trace helium in the atmosphere would soon be “discovered.”
Because this is the first crisis that fits their political agenda they have been pushing since the mid-1800’s. That is to take over and control all means of production within society.
Hardly the first crisis. Remember the ozone layer hole scare?
Rand, its a Hokey, not a Hockey Stick!
Hardly the first crisis. Remember the ozone layer hole scare?
Why exactly do you think it wasn’t (and isn’t) a real problem?
Paul, have your views…evolved…in light of the revelations of the past few weeks?
Re: Ozone.
1) The original data pointed to ‘new and rapidly increasing, panic now!’. Now we know it has been around awhile and is pseudo-cyclic.
2) The culprit that was fingered (halocarbons) has been further studied to the point that the predicted influence of halocarbons was only off by a couple orders of magnitude.
Why should we assume that this one, and this one only, is a result of CO2 build up, and not simply part of the natural cycle (which is what it appears to be in the longer view) and a coincidence?
Because numerate humans are supposed to raise an eyebrow at the notion of a once-in-a-thousand-centuries temperature spike striking in the one century when man has raised the level of atmospheric CO2 to levels not seen in millions of years as being the result of nothing but random chance.
“Because numerate humans…”
We are raising an eyebrow, but mostly because the math involved in making that self-same statement is so egregiously ridiculous.
They’re mere anecdotes of trivial details like crops in Greenland, migrations in New Zealand, written records across pan-Europe, glaciers in Alaska, tribal dispersion across North America – but they’re pretty definitive about how grossly incompetent the current best efforts at temperature reconstruction are.
Hardly the first crisis. Remember the ozone layer hole scare?
Bah, the ozone hole was just a warm up. This one is for all the marbles.
“Because numerate humans are supposed to raise an eyebrow at the notion of a once-in-a-thousand-centuries temperature spike striking in the one century when man has raised the level of atmospheric CO2 to levels not seen in millions of years as being the result of nothing but random chance.”
Yeah. It’s like seeing a once in a lifetime comet making a close swing-by and noticing a rare meteor shower at the same time. Er,…
Gee… maybe these events are not uncorrelated?
Ya’ know…, I’m getting a strange feeling this may not be a coincidence, either.
Because numerate humans are supposed to raise an eyebrow at the notion of a once-in-a-thousand-centuries temperature spike striking in the one century when man has raised the level of atmospheric CO2 to levels not seen in millions of years as being the result of nothing but random chance.
Do you have evidence of this alleged temperature spike? As I recall there is no such spike even in the original hockey stick graph.
“He had this blank look on his face . . . like Spock when he didn’t have his brain.”
Sarah Palin performing a dramatic reading from William Shatner’s autobiography on the Tonight Show with Conan O’Brian.
Do you have evidence of this alleged temperature spike?
Rand’s question assumed it; he was arguing that even if temps spiked it could be natural variation, since such spikes occurred before humans were emitting much carbon.
It’s also the case that mass extinctions occurred before humans existed, but it’d be crazy to conclude that the current mass extinction has nothing to do with humanity.
The notion that the current temperature rise (whose very existence is now questionable, in light of all the cherry-picked data) is solely, or even primarily attributable to human activity, is at this point a religious belief, not a scientific one.