That’s right bbbeard but most of those are happening in areas hostile to concealed carry like Phily or areas where CCW just passed weeks ago like Wisconsin.
When seconds count the police are days away.
Insuring that people can’t defend themselves… what could possibly go wrong?
Allow me to supply the standard British response for you: it’s only property, we can replace or repair it. Shooting looters? We can’t replace a human life, etc.
Why would a looter need replacing? What kind of a fool values the life of a parasite?
Stupid games should win stupid prizes. Some people need killing. Looters are amongst them.
but.. but.. they’re just children! Won’t someone think of the children?
So the London fires prove that gun control causes global warming.
I remember being told by my 8th grade “social studies” teacher that countries with gun control have no crime. We had an exchange like the following:
Me: “Really? No crime?”
Teach: “Yes. Take England for example.”
Me: “I find it hard to believe that a country the size of England has no violent crime, if only due to random nutcases.”
Teach: “But that’s what I’m telling you: England has gun control. Countries with gun control have no crime. Therefore England has no crime! Now stop being stupid.”
Me: (blinking at the insanity of the adults around me)
*** the next day
Me: Umm, yesterday I looked up the crime statistics for London. They do have crime there, and their violent crime rate really isn’t much better than these cities here in the US (lists cities).
Teach: Where did you get that?!
Me: Umm, the internet?
Teach: I didn’t give you that! You shouldn’t know that! You don’t have the AUTHORITY TO KNOW THAT! (flips out)
Wow. The employment filter for teachers today is really impressive based on that anecdote (and I’ve experience many similar.) Good to know our youth are in the best of hands. It’s such a good thing todays college graduates don’t have to compete with the average reasoning ability of any of the youngest students in a little house on the prairie one room school… Where the younger were exposed to the teaching of the older while learning their own material.
Those schools had kids knowing literature, history, calculus, Latin and sometimes Greek by the time the single teacher of each school scattered around the country was done with them. No wonder our founders felt the future of our country was in safe hands. They could never have imagined a department of education producing schools with todays politically correct curriculum where not even the teachers have a basic education.
A Disarmed Society
…is a violent society.
If it were possible to have a completely disarmed society, it might be peaceful. However, all gun control laws do is disarm the law abiding people. Criminals by definition don’t obey the law. It’s amazing how many people can’t grasp that fundamental concept.
@Larry
Sorry, if all weapons were to suddenly disappear the larger and more viloent of society would see that society wasn’t peaceful.
If it were possible to have a completely disarmed society
No such animal — even the most primitive tool can be used as a weapon. This is Leftist Logic: one based on completely false premises regarding the universe and humanity in general.
“Why “powerlessness” leads inevitably to someone looting a plasma TV is never adequately explained…”
How does one even watch a plasma TV if one has no power?
Huh?!?
If it were possible to have a completely disarmed society, it might be peaceful.
That’s a mighty big IF.
The first human act of violence didn’t use a gun, or a knife, or even a rock or a bone club. It used teeth and fists.
Getting rid of teeth and fists would ring in a new era of … stomping and head-butting.
The trolls are conspicuously absent. Where are they? Props to Trent for his devil’s advocacy, but it’s just not the same…
If it were possible to have a completely disarmed society, it might be peaceful.
That’s a mighty big IF.
Absolutely agree, that’s why I qualified the statement with the word “might.” More than likely, it would not be peaceful simply because the resourceful can use all sorts of things as weapons. Anyone who has studied the martial arts knows this. Many of the weapons used by martial artists have their origins in farm implements because the peasants were not allowed to own traditional weapons of the day.
The point I was trying to make is that since criminals by definition don’t obey the law, they’re unlikely to suddenly start obeying gun control (or or other weapon control) laws.
Likewise, passing more laws results in more criminals, not less (see: Prohibition, War on Drugs).
London is burning. The lack of guns isn’t the problem, privately owned cigarette lighters and matches are! England should at least look into licenses to buy those, and restrictions on carrying them in public. [/sarc]
George, hush! Don’t give them more ideas! They’ve already outlawed sharp steaknives. . .
They won’t stop until everyone (except the violent) is wrapped helplessly in bandages so there’s no possibility of defending oneself. “For the Children”.
I just watched a crime-video show on TV in which a pizza store employee was beating up a would-be robber, until a female co-worker pulled him off and went to give the robber the money from the till.
When the first employee resumed beating up the robber, the female employee once again tried to stop him, but this time she failed.
I couldn’t keep from yelling at my TV the second time. Jeez.
I’ve seen Australian police (on tv) say that carrying a hammer is illegal if you intend to defend yourself with it. Not sure how they make that determination.
In any case, I believe it’s not the prohibition of guns in the UK which is the problem.. even if they were legal to own, the law is that you’re not allowed to use it to defend property. As I understand it, there’s laws in some states of the US which are much the same. I want to say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine but that’s for “homes” only. “Stand Your Ground” laws more general.
Trent, I have to agree with Titus. You simply aren’t brainless enough to be a convincing troll. You’ll have to work on that. But Titus, you do make the requirement of being reality based too restrictive. A troll has to have an illusionary foundation for any of their really good arguments. It can’t all just be illogic.
“Remember, remember the fifth of August…”
What’s the problem? As these two young women explain, they’re just spreading the wealth around by taking from “the rich people.”
Funny, just yesterday you linked to a story about riots here in the USA.
That’s right bbbeard but most of those are happening in areas hostile to concealed carry like Phily or areas where CCW just passed weeks ago like Wisconsin.
When seconds count the police are days away.
Insuring that people can’t defend themselves… what could possibly go wrong?
Allow me to supply the standard British response for you: it’s only property, we can replace or repair it. Shooting looters? We can’t replace a human life, etc.
Why would a looter need replacing? What kind of a fool values the life of a parasite?
Stupid games should win stupid prizes. Some people need killing. Looters are amongst them.
but.. but.. they’re just children! Won’t someone think of the children?
So the London fires prove that gun control causes global warming.
I remember being told by my 8th grade “social studies” teacher that countries with gun control have no crime. We had an exchange like the following:
Me: “Really? No crime?”
Teach: “Yes. Take England for example.”
Me: “I find it hard to believe that a country the size of England has no violent crime, if only due to random nutcases.”
Teach: “But that’s what I’m telling you: England has gun control. Countries with gun control have no crime. Therefore England has no crime! Now stop being stupid.”
Me: (blinking at the insanity of the adults around me)
*** the next day
Me: Umm, yesterday I looked up the crime statistics for London. They do have crime there, and their violent crime rate really isn’t much better than these cities here in the US (lists cities).
Teach: Where did you get that?!
Me: Umm, the internet?
Teach: I didn’t give you that! You shouldn’t know that! You don’t have the AUTHORITY TO KNOW THAT! (flips out)
Wow. The employment filter for teachers today is really impressive based on that anecdote (and I’ve experience many similar.) Good to know our youth are in the best of hands. It’s such a good thing todays college graduates don’t have to compete with the average reasoning ability of any of the youngest students in a little house on the prairie one room school… Where the younger were exposed to the teaching of the older while learning their own material.
Those schools had kids knowing literature, history, calculus, Latin and sometimes Greek by the time the single teacher of each school scattered around the country was done with them. No wonder our founders felt the future of our country was in safe hands. They could never have imagined a department of education producing schools with todays politically correct curriculum where not even the teachers have a basic education.
A Disarmed Society
…is a violent society.
If it were possible to have a completely disarmed society, it might be peaceful. However, all gun control laws do is disarm the law abiding people. Criminals by definition don’t obey the law. It’s amazing how many people can’t grasp that fundamental concept.
@Larry
Sorry, if all weapons were to suddenly disappear the larger and more viloent of society would see that society wasn’t peaceful.
No such animal — even the most primitive tool can be used as a weapon. This is Leftist Logic: one based on completely false premises regarding the universe and humanity in general.
“Why “powerlessness” leads inevitably to someone looting a plasma TV is never adequately explained…”
How does one even watch a plasma TV if one has no power?
Huh?!?
That’s a mighty big IF.
The first human act of violence didn’t use a gun, or a knife, or even a rock or a bone club. It used teeth and fists.
Getting rid of teeth and fists would ring in a new era of … stomping and head-butting.
The trolls are conspicuously absent. Where are they? Props to Trent for his devil’s advocacy, but it’s just not the same…
If it were possible to have a completely disarmed society, it might be peaceful.
That’s a mighty big IF.
Absolutely agree, that’s why I qualified the statement with the word “might.” More than likely, it would not be peaceful simply because the resourceful can use all sorts of things as weapons. Anyone who has studied the martial arts knows this. Many of the weapons used by martial artists have their origins in farm implements because the peasants were not allowed to own traditional weapons of the day.
The point I was trying to make is that since criminals by definition don’t obey the law, they’re unlikely to suddenly start obeying gun control (or or other weapon control) laws.
Likewise, passing more laws results in more criminals, not less (see: Prohibition, War on Drugs).
London is burning. The lack of guns isn’t the problem, privately owned cigarette lighters and matches are! England should at least look into licenses to buy those, and restrictions on carrying them in public. [/sarc]
George, hush! Don’t give them more ideas! They’ve already outlawed sharp steaknives. . .
They won’t stop until everyone (except the violent) is wrapped helplessly in bandages so there’s no possibility of defending oneself. “For the Children”.
I just watched a crime-video show on TV in which a pizza store employee was beating up a would-be robber, until a female co-worker pulled him off and went to give the robber the money from the till.
When the first employee resumed beating up the robber, the female employee once again tried to stop him, but this time she failed.
I couldn’t keep from yelling at my TV the second time. Jeez.
I’ve seen Australian police (on tv) say that carrying a hammer is illegal if you intend to defend yourself with it. Not sure how they make that determination.
In any case, I believe it’s not the prohibition of guns in the UK which is the problem.. even if they were legal to own, the law is that you’re not allowed to use it to defend property. As I understand it, there’s laws in some states of the US which are much the same. I want to say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine but that’s for “homes” only. “Stand Your Ground” laws more general.
The opposing doctrine is more common: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_retreat
Trent, I have to agree with Titus. You simply aren’t brainless enough to be a convincing troll. You’ll have to work on that. But Titus, you do make the requirement of being reality based too restrictive. A troll has to have an illusionary foundation for any of their really good arguments. It can’t all just be illogic.