Rand, thanks for posting this. I was very confused by Prop 31 even after reading the detailed information in the voter pamphlet. There seems to be a lot of stuff buried in this proposition which raised my spider sense. The article you linked to confirmed my suspicions .
It’s a key (and stealth) part of the Left’s long-time war on the suburbs.
General rule of thumb for ballot initiatives – if they can’t explain it in a paragraph or less, vote no.
Should be a general rule for any law.
Kind of wide-ranging for an initiative. Looks to me like something that would require amending the state constitution, except that I was pretty sure anything too wide-ranging would be blocked as a constitutional revision.
Oh wait — this is the state that not only let an ineligible candidate get elected attorney general, but then promoted him to governor despite having put up with him for eight years already.
I couldn’t stand it anymore, and left four years ago…though it seems like a lifetime, in a good way.
The SAPs’ most important power would involve revenue sharing
Wealth redistribution must not have gotten past the focus group.
When I was in California, I made a habit of voting against everything on the proposition ballot. The only exception was when I gave Governor Schwarzenegger a chance on his propositions (most which I think failed hard). I must admit that passage of this sort of law would greatly accelerate the dissolution of California which, if you’re of the “kill it with fire” nihilistic tendency would favor.
The default position on all propositions should be NO!
Absolutely do not agree. In Texas, the statist have figured that one out, and will actually right the ballot question in such a way that a nay actually inacts the initiative.
ack, write the ballot…
“It’s a key (and stealth) part of the Left’s long-time war on the suburbs.” i guess the Left doesn’t include the Democratic Party, which urges a No on 31.
The Democratic party opposes it because it’s a sizable transfer of power from the legislature to unelected bureaucrats, which is the same reason the vestigial Cal GOP supports it. The Democratic party owns the California legislature. If you actually look at the grassroots organizations, you’ll see it’s the left that support its, while folks like the tea party oppose it.
Who on the left are you talking about? The groups who oppose it on the left include the California Democratic Party, the California Green Party, the Sierra Club, the Coastal Commission, the League of Women Voters, League of Conservation Voters…
Let California be California. Someone must serve as a bad example, why not them?
Because when it collapses (as it’s certain to do) and they come begging to be bailed out (as they most certainly will), the price tag will be horrendous. I’d prefer a less populated state like Wyoming be the bad example.
Rand, thanks for posting this. I was very confused by Prop 31 even after reading the detailed information in the voter pamphlet. There seems to be a lot of stuff buried in this proposition which raised my spider sense. The article you linked to confirmed my suspicions .
It’s a key (and stealth) part of the Left’s long-time war on the suburbs.
General rule of thumb for ballot initiatives – if they can’t explain it in a paragraph or less, vote no.
Should be a general rule for any law.
Kind of wide-ranging for an initiative. Looks to me like something that would require amending the state constitution, except that I was pretty sure anything too wide-ranging would be blocked as a constitutional revision.
Oh wait — this is the state that not only let an ineligible candidate get elected attorney general, but then promoted him to governor despite having put up with him for eight years already.
I couldn’t stand it anymore, and left four years ago…though it seems like a lifetime, in a good way.
The SAPs’ most important power would involve revenue sharing
Wealth redistribution must not have gotten past the focus group.
When I was in California, I made a habit of voting against everything on the proposition ballot. The only exception was when I gave Governor Schwarzenegger a chance on his propositions (most which I think failed hard). I must admit that passage of this sort of law would greatly accelerate the dissolution of California which, if you’re of the “kill it with fire” nihilistic tendency would favor.
The default position on all propositions should be NO!
Absolutely do not agree. In Texas, the statist have figured that one out, and will actually right the ballot question in such a way that a nay actually inacts the initiative.
ack, write the ballot…
“It’s a key (and stealth) part of the Left’s long-time war on the suburbs.” i guess the Left doesn’t include the Democratic Party, which urges a No on 31.
The Democratic party opposes it because it’s a sizable transfer of power from the legislature to unelected bureaucrats, which is the same reason the vestigial Cal GOP supports it. The Democratic party owns the California legislature. If you actually look at the grassroots organizations, you’ll see it’s the left that support its, while folks like the tea party oppose it.
Who on the left are you talking about? The groups who oppose it on the left include the California Democratic Party, the California Green Party, the Sierra Club, the Coastal Commission, the League of Women Voters, League of Conservation Voters…
I’m looking at The Prop. 31 page at Ballotpedia.org, and they claim that the state Republicans are for it and the Dems are against it.
Let California be California. Someone must serve as a bad example, why not them?
Because when it collapses (as it’s certain to do) and they come begging to be bailed out (as they most certainly will), the price tag will be horrendous. I’d prefer a less populated state like Wyoming be the bad example.