There is a solution to this rebellion that could backfire on the seditious Dems in a very nasty way. There are clips in the article of Sec Pompeo making oblique references to the governors about this. I would not be surprised to see Trump declare an insurrection on or just after the election.
See also the other thread within this one on the 1807 Insurrection Act.
Trump has offered to help any Democrat that asks for it but why risk the unknowables from invoking the Insurrection Act? The Democrat race and marxist revolution riots are mainly happening in Democrat cities and the optics are not great for Democrats. How long will Democrat politicians want to stab themselves in the leg? How long will Democrat voters put up with the violence?
Since it takes a rude awakening to see Marxist organizational structures to be rejected by the populace, maybe it is better to let them flame out? The Democrats are making a big mistake by abandoning incrementalism because people can see what is coming before no one has power to stop them.
I think Trump has the right approach. Deputizing state police forces to give them the power to make arrests for federal crimes allows Democrat mayors, governors, DA’s, and police forces to be bypassed.
The Democrats have destroyed the equivalent of many countries’ GDP with their Marxist race riots but I am less worried about that than what Democrat controlled companies are doing, especially those that control the flow of information. Trump could do something there.
The Tech Providers lost their “common carrier” status when they began filtering content. Google should never have been granted any exemptions from the laws that pertain to ordinary publishers. Facebook & Twitter as soon as they began deleting posts due to ‘fact checking’. These are all private enterprises posing as a public utility. They are far from it. They want that status they should be organized and run like any other public utility, with oversight by a state commissions in a manner consistent with electric or telephone utilities. Otherwise they can and should be held to the same standards as any other publisher. Which is essentially what they are.
I don’t disagree but I don’t trust the courts to rule that way.
We should make sure we elect people who will appoint judges that do. Where you can directly vote for judges it’s a great campaign question.
The Dems’ attempt at another massive, coordinated lie (the false claims as to what Trump said about fallen troops – confirmed false today by Trump enemy John Bolton) does indeed look very targeted. I thought that the moment I saw it – why this, and why now?
If indeed the Dems are planning a coup, it seems to me that their strategy is predicated upon events proceeding as they plan. They seem to be assuming that their unconstitutional actions will be met with restraint, rather than in kind.
In short, I think they expect to be the only side willing to use unconventional tactics. They seem to expect Trump to sit, twiddling his thumbs, while they destroy both him and the country. They also seem to expect that AG Barr, amongst others, is turning a blind eye to all this, rather than making lists to know whom to strike when the balloon goes up. They expect a passive response.
I think this will not end well for them, if they try it.
Seems to me that they’re simply running out of options at this point. Their Chinese Flu scam has wrecked most of the institutions they infiltrated and subverted, and they’re losing more power every day.
Arizona CJ wrote:
“The Dems’ attempt at another massive, coordinated lie (the false claims as to what Trump said about fallen troops – confirmed false today by Trump enemy John Bolton) does indeed look very targeted. I thought that the moment I saw it – why this, and why now? ”
The “why now” is to distract from Queen Pelosi’s hair-do faux pas. It was actually damaging the brand – especially when she (stupidly I think) doubled down and blamed the store owner for “setting her up”.
As for the Coup, like all Dem plans, there are a range of possible results all of which (they think) benefits them. And you have to take them as a whole – condoning violence death and destruction, the hoaxes etc.
At a minimum:
1) Help Dem chances in November up and down the ticket
2) Continue the Resistance in order to hobble Trump’s ability to push his agenda
– it will throw shade on Trump’s legitimacy.
3) Stop people from sitting quietly and thinking seriously about what’s going on and who is to blame.
4) If totally successful the election will be thrown to the House.
Throwing the election to the House only works for the democrats if the same chaos and cheating gives them the necessary seats there. Which is a problem for them, as this same chaos that prevents electoral college results also prevents a clear winner in House races in states where they dominate. So a stupid or desperate plan for donkeys. Which should not rules it out.
The other problem for the Democrats in throwing the election to the House is that for this purpose representatives don’t get one vote apiece; each state delegation gets one vote apiece. I think the Republicans still control more state delegations than the Democrats.
” Over the summer a story was deliberately leaked to the press of a meeting at which 100 Democratic grandees, anti-Trump former Republicans, and other ruling class apparatchiks got together (on George Soros’s dime) to “game out” various outcomes of the 2020 election. One such outcome was a clear Trump win. In that eventuality, former Bill Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta, playing Biden, refused to concede, pressured states that Trump won to send Democrats to the formal Electoral College vote, and trusted that the military would take care of the rest.”
The important question is how much alcohol and/or drugs were consumed before they began their role playing gaming.
Other than John Podesta, who is a flunky, real reporting would give the names of the people in meeting during the pandemic.
It would be an interesting tactic for Purple “Swing States” with entrenched Dem state governments to try to appoint faithless electors. It would also work towards the Dems goal of eliminating the Electoral College by end running the process, making it unpopular enough to gather bipartisan support for an amendment to remove the electoral college thus enshrining the tyranny of the majority over “flyover country”. Only problem is that conservatives are too smart to fall for such a ruse.
Of course the flaw in that plan is that Trump would have plenty of warning and could issue a call to his voters for a “march on Washington” to “Show Support For Democracy” by surrounding the Capitol to “Take Back Our Government”. Let’s hope the intervening months between the election and the inauguration don’t devolve into a Kurt Schlichter novel, with all that entails.
“The 538 people who cast the actual votes for president in December as part of the Electoral College are not free agents and must vote as the laws of their states direct, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.”
I believe we already have states makes twisted laws instructing their electors to vote the way the national totals indicate.
There are only a few states that have laws that actually recind their electors if they are faithless. Most just issue fines, some are only $1000. Easily bankrolled. The other piece of duplicitous action required is that pledged electors are chosen in most states from the party ranks within those states. They’d have to be willing to buck their own party. It’d be quite a trick indeed to make sure they were all Never Trumpers.
There is a solution to this rebellion that could backfire on the seditious Dems in a very nasty way. There are clips in the article of Sec Pompeo making oblique references to the governors about this. I would not be surprised to see Trump declare an insurrection on or just after the election.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1302917969568239617.html
See also the other thread within this one on the 1807 Insurrection Act.
Trump has offered to help any Democrat that asks for it but why risk the unknowables from invoking the Insurrection Act? The Democrat race and marxist revolution riots are mainly happening in Democrat cities and the optics are not great for Democrats. How long will Democrat politicians want to stab themselves in the leg? How long will Democrat voters put up with the violence?
Since it takes a rude awakening to see Marxist organizational structures to be rejected by the populace, maybe it is better to let them flame out? The Democrats are making a big mistake by abandoning incrementalism because people can see what is coming before no one has power to stop them.
I think Trump has the right approach. Deputizing state police forces to give them the power to make arrests for federal crimes allows Democrat mayors, governors, DA’s, and police forces to be bypassed.
The Democrats have destroyed the equivalent of many countries’ GDP with their Marxist race riots but I am less worried about that than what Democrat controlled companies are doing, especially those that control the flow of information. Trump could do something there.
The Tech Providers lost their “common carrier” status when they began filtering content. Google should never have been granted any exemptions from the laws that pertain to ordinary publishers. Facebook & Twitter as soon as they began deleting posts due to ‘fact checking’. These are all private enterprises posing as a public utility. They are far from it. They want that status they should be organized and run like any other public utility, with oversight by a state commissions in a manner consistent with electric or telephone utilities. Otherwise they can and should be held to the same standards as any other publisher. Which is essentially what they are.
I don’t disagree but I don’t trust the courts to rule that way.
We should make sure we elect people who will appoint judges that do. Where you can directly vote for judges it’s a great campaign question.
The Dems’ attempt at another massive, coordinated lie (the false claims as to what Trump said about fallen troops – confirmed false today by Trump enemy John Bolton) does indeed look very targeted. I thought that the moment I saw it – why this, and why now?
If indeed the Dems are planning a coup, it seems to me that their strategy is predicated upon events proceeding as they plan. They seem to be assuming that their unconstitutional actions will be met with restraint, rather than in kind.
In short, I think they expect to be the only side willing to use unconventional tactics. They seem to expect Trump to sit, twiddling his thumbs, while they destroy both him and the country. They also seem to expect that AG Barr, amongst others, is turning a blind eye to all this, rather than making lists to know whom to strike when the balloon goes up. They expect a passive response.
I think this will not end well for them, if they try it.
Seems to me that they’re simply running out of options at this point. Their Chinese Flu scam has wrecked most of the institutions they infiltrated and subverted, and they’re losing more power every day.
Arizona CJ wrote:
“The Dems’ attempt at another massive, coordinated lie (the false claims as to what Trump said about fallen troops – confirmed false today by Trump enemy John Bolton) does indeed look very targeted. I thought that the moment I saw it – why this, and why now? ”
The “why now” is to distract from Queen Pelosi’s hair-do faux pas. It was actually damaging the brand – especially when she (stupidly I think) doubled down and blamed the store owner for “setting her up”.
As for the Coup, like all Dem plans, there are a range of possible results all of which (they think) benefits them. And you have to take them as a whole – condoning violence death and destruction, the hoaxes etc.
At a minimum:
1) Help Dem chances in November up and down the ticket
2) Continue the Resistance in order to hobble Trump’s ability to push his agenda
– it will throw shade on Trump’s legitimacy.
3) Stop people from sitting quietly and thinking seriously about what’s going on and who is to blame.
4) If totally successful the election will be thrown to the House.
Throwing the election to the House only works for the democrats if the same chaos and cheating gives them the necessary seats there. Which is a problem for them, as this same chaos that prevents electoral college results also prevents a clear winner in House races in states where they dominate. So a stupid or desperate plan for donkeys. Which should not rules it out.
The other problem for the Democrats in throwing the election to the House is that for this purpose representatives don’t get one vote apiece; each state delegation gets one vote apiece. I think the Republicans still control more state delegations than the Democrats.
” Over the summer a story was deliberately leaked to the press of a meeting at which 100 Democratic grandees, anti-Trump former Republicans, and other ruling class apparatchiks got together (on George Soros’s dime) to “game out” various outcomes of the 2020 election. One such outcome was a clear Trump win. In that eventuality, former Bill Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta, playing Biden, refused to concede, pressured states that Trump won to send Democrats to the formal Electoral College vote, and trusted that the military would take care of the rest.”
The important question is how much alcohol and/or drugs were consumed before they began their role playing gaming.
Other than John Podesta, who is a flunky, real reporting would give the names of the people in meeting during the pandemic.
It would be an interesting tactic for Purple “Swing States” with entrenched Dem state governments to try to appoint faithless electors. It would also work towards the Dems goal of eliminating the Electoral College by end running the process, making it unpopular enough to gather bipartisan support for an amendment to remove the electoral college thus enshrining the tyranny of the majority over “flyover country”. Only problem is that conservatives are too smart to fall for such a ruse.
Of course the flaw in that plan is that Trump would have plenty of warning and could issue a call to his voters for a “march on Washington” to “Show Support For Democracy” by surrounding the Capitol to “Take Back Our Government”. Let’s hope the intervening months between the election and the inauguration don’t devolve into a Kurt Schlichter novel, with all that entails.
SCOTUS recently ruled on faithless electors, https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-faithless-electors-can-t-go-rogue-electoral-n1231394
Wodun,
The problem is this phrase:
“The 538 people who cast the actual votes for president in December as part of the Electoral College are not free agents and must vote as the laws of their states direct, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.”
I believe we already have states makes twisted laws instructing their electors to vote the way the national totals indicate.
There are only a few states that have laws that actually recind their electors if they are faithless. Most just issue fines, some are only $1000. Easily bankrolled. The other piece of duplicitous action required is that pledged electors are chosen in most states from the party ranks within those states. They’d have to be willing to buck their own party. It’d be quite a trick indeed to make sure they were all Never Trumpers.