35 thoughts on “The UFO Phenomenon”

  1. Just as a verification, I’d like to see the same target picked up by the tracking systems on three aircraft at once.

    Why? Because lenses and imaging systems produce ghosts, flares, and other phenomenon, sometimes exploited to great effect by cinematographers (ref. J.J. Abrams movies).

    With two aircraft, you could, in theory, have both experience an optical phenomenon, and the angles from each aircraft would imply an intersection point, or apparent location. But with three aircraft, a third angle caused by an internal problem would not intersect at the same point as the first two angles. Each aircraft would see one phenomenon but there would be three intersection points.

    1. Hey, I’d like to see the signatures matched against voter registrations, but some things in this life are never going to happen.

  2. “Just as a verification, I’d like to see the same target picked up by the tracking systems on three aircraft at once.

    Why? Because lenses and imaging systems produce ghosts, flares, and other phenomenon, sometimes exploited to great effect by cinematographers (ref. J.J. Abrams movies).

    With two aircraft, you could, in theory, have both experience an optical phenomenon, and the angles from each aircraft would imply an intersection point, or apparent location. But with three aircraft, a third angle caused by an internal problem would not intersect at the same point as the first two angles. Each aircraft would see one phenomenon but there would be three intersection points.”

    If we were just talking about a singular event a one time only photograph(s) you might have a point. But apparently this is a recurring phenomenon:

    “This is big news, or should be, for four reasons.

    First, it confirms the ongoing presence of UFOs proximate to the Navy’s nuclear-powered aircraft carriers. These UFOs are apparently powered by unconventional non-jet based flight propulsion systems, exhibiting no exhaust trails, and are capable of rapidly navigating water, air, and space. No nation or corporation has been shown to possess, let alone manifest, such advanced engineering. As an extension, the reports reinforce the classified assessment that there is an unknown connection between naval nuclear reactors and proximate UFO activity.”

    “Recently, it seems the UAP have been interested in our naval vessels as well as our carrier aircraft. The intel people have been speculating but they have no frame of reference to theorize. If these UAP are, indeed, alien in origin, we couldn’t possibly understand their purpose. They’ve traveled trillions and trillions of miles and for what? We don’t know what motivates them. Their intelligence may operate on a completely different plane than ours — perhaps even a different reality.

    Obviously, more transparency is needed. But will it be forthcoming? The military believes the UAP are a potential threat. The Navy is particularly sensitive to releasing information since it touches on one of the most classified programs in the military — our sonar nets strung out around the world to listen for submarines. What they’re catching are USOs — Unidentified Submersible Objects — moving at impossible speeds with no cavitating propellers and no known propulsion system.”

    This is obviously a repeating recurring phenomenon; “buggy” data or optical illusions won’t cut it this time. The Gimbal and Tic-Tac UFO’s were tracked by radar I believe from multiple sources as well as visual contact.

    1. My point was that the more sophisticated the optical chain, the more ghost images it will produce internally, especially if there are bright, off-axis point sources. Zoom lenses are notorious for it. As the camera moves, it also causes the ghost image to shift, so that the act of trying to track the ghost object makes the object appear to move.

      Did the pilots pursuing these UFO’s get tone and a lock from their Sidewinders? Why do I ask? Because the Sidewinder, at least the older ones, have a ridiculously simple optical system that would not see a ghost image, or if it did, it wouldn’t be remotely related to the one showing up in the aircraft’s FLIR cameras. In photography, lens hoods and other shade devices are a very important outdoor item. But you can’t really have those on a FLIR targeting pod.

      Another questions. Why are the aliens apparently only interested in US aircraft carriers? You think they’d be more interested in F-15’s and F-16’s, just because of the cool factor, yet they seem to focus on teasing our F-18’s. Could that be because the older F-14’s, F-15’s, and F-16’s use the Lockheed Martin AAN/AQ-15 LANTIRN pod, whereas the F-18 C/D’s and E/F’s use the Boeing (formerly Raytheon) AN/ASQ-228 ATFLIR? If they stuck LANTIRN pod on one F-18 hardpoint and an ATFLIR on another hardpoint, would they both see the alien phenomenon, or would it just show up in the ATFLIR?

      And what speeds are the aircraft flying at when they encounter the phenomenon? Do high speeds, and high aircraft skin temperatures, along with various localized heating effects, seem to be related to the appearances of the alien craft?

        1. Are they? If the FLIR is having a hot-spot or lens flare issue, it’s likely going to see a target somewhere in its visual field where ever it looks. Where is it going to be looking? The place where there’s an apparent radar return, because the FLIR slaves over to examine the contact.

          So the proper test would be decoupling the FLIR from the radar, or from anything, and seeing if the object stays centered in the FLIR as the FLIR scans a few degrees up and down and right and left. Does shifting the FLIR move the object in the FLIR image at all? If not, it’s a ghost. If it does move, does it move with a rational geometry relative to the image and the external environment (Does the image act like a real point traveling through space?)

          And just look at the images. The one’s with a discrete image size and features should resolve into a 3-D shape as the pursuing aircraft moves relative to the object, as would any physical object, but in some of the footage, they don’t. They remain either a bright blob or a dark blob, with an apparent 2-D shape that remains constant.

          The object apparently cruising over the ocean is a glowing dot. Could it be the ATFLIR’s laser designator that was unknowingly on? Could it be lens flare? Could it be lens flare caused by off-axis sunlight coming up from the ocean, outside the frame’s field-of-view? Why would any craft appear as a brightly lit object over a dark ocean? It’s certainly unlikely to be a craft trying to stay hidden unless the craft thinks a bright light shining upwards is good camouflage.

          Another object is a dark spot surrounded by a glowing halo, It is not typical of any type of vehicle, nor of the bright dot seen against the ocean. It also rotates along the field of vision as the pursuing aircraft turns, which is likely do to the shifting light angle coming into the lens.

          1. The images are just as sharp as the ones they release from Afghanistan and Iraq. It’s FLIR, taken from a camera lens. The lens diameter and IR wavelength determine the limiting resolution just like it does for any optical image. Any amateur astronomer or photographer over the last 150 years could look at a photo of the FLIR pod and tell what the potential resolution is.

            And why would Navy officers who want to show visual proof of an alien spacecraft intentionally blur the image so nobody believes them? Wouldn’t that be rather self-defeating?

    2. Alternative explanation: a US carrier battle group has MANY eyes and instruments scanning the environment. More eyes equals a much higher chance of observing intermittent natural conditions.

      (Have you ever had to troubleshoot a system with “intermittent problems”? *GRRR* It can take hours to just have a clue what the problem “might” be.)

  3. And more:

    “Sometime in the next five years, the United States Navy will announce unmistakable, undeniable proof of the extraterrestrial origin of what they term “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena” (UAP). The most recent report from the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, which is run out of the Office of Naval Intelligence, comes very close to making that determination public.

    While many believe in alien visitation, the proof has been lacking except for eyewitness accounts. There also have been numerous reports of a government conspiracy to “hide the truth” about alien visitation. The “conspiracy” was a useful part of the military’s disinformation campaign to hide what they were really doing: building super-secret, super-capable weapons.

    But these reports from fighter pilots with video from sophisticated, high-tech imaging systems have the spooks stumped. Through the process of elimination, they are slowly coming to the conclusion that the UAP phenomenon features aircraft that did not originate on planet Earth.

    No-brainer, right? Except these are some of the most brilliant scientists in the world. They don’t leap to conclusions. They don’t play hunches. They don’t tell us what’s obvious. They base their conclusions on the facts. And for anyone in government to reach this conclusion demands attention from the rest of us.”

    1. Brother, add some commentary of your own, why do you requote large portions of the original article? Do you honestly believe George either missed that or didn’t comprehend it? Sheesh

      1. “Brother, add some commentary of your own, why do you requote large portions of the original article? Do you honestly believe George either missed that or didn’t comprehend it? Sheesh”

        Well “sheesh” Jiminator you want some independent commentary from me here you go:

        “Suggesting in official government statements that UFO’s just might be alien spacecraft wouldn’t make sense as “disinformation” if you are trying to direct the public away from your “classified programs”. Telling folks that UFO’s are real is only going to massively increase public interest/awareness/curiosity; the exact opposite of what you would want to do if your trying to divert attention away from it. Telling them it is “swamp gas”, “weather balloon”, “crash test dummies (not alien bodies)” etc. makes more sense as disinformation. After all the government for over 50 years has done such, changing the story now will only cause people to realize that the authorities have been lying to us for decades about what they knew.”

        There “Jiminator” that’s my contribution to the discussion; why don’t you pray tell tell us what yours is?

    2. “They don’t play hunches…They base their conclusions on the facts.”

      After the Climategate and Covid, that statement is a joke!

  4. One of the “scientific experts” maned in the article is Hal Puthoff, who is one of the geniuses who got scammed by Uri Geller about Geller’s supposed psychic powers, and by others about supposed “remote viewing”. No thanks; I’ll continue thinking this is all disinformation covering up real but less dramatic classified programs.

  5. “One of the “scientific experts” maned in the article is Hal Puthoff, who is one of the geniuses who got scammed by Uri Geller about Geller’s supposed psychic powers, and by others about supposed “remote viewing”. No thanks; I’ll continue thinking this is all disinformation covering up real but less dramatic classified programs.”

    So then by your argument even if the Navy/Guv publically admitted to said UFO being real alien visitation you would still maintain it could be a “disinformation” campaign? After all they could still by your reasoning still be lying?

    1. Yup.

      Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Let the aliens hold press conferences, give guided tours of their ships, show up at air shows, etc. Yes I’m exaggerating but not by a lot. Why should I believe unsubstantiated government statements about something like this, much less breathless articles by the conspiracy-industrial complex moaning “I want to believe…”

      1. If there are space aliens, how much will it cost tax payers?

        I don’t think there are any space aliens anywhere near Earth, but if there were space alien, they might doing what we do cats, shine light and have a cat chase it.
        And it seems easiest way to do that is mess with the computer- and of course, humans {or AI} could do that.
        But if there was space aliens messing with us, it seems we have become spacefaring civilization {and should be doing that anyhow}

      2. “No thanks; I’ll continue thinking this is all disinformation covering up real but less dramatic classified programs.”

        Suggesting in official government statements that UFO’s just might be alien spacecraft wouldn’t make sense as “disinformation” if you are trying to direct the public away from your “classified programs”. Telling folks that UFO’s are real is only going to massively increase public interest/awareness/curiosity; the exact opposite of what you would want to do if your trying to divert attention away from it. Telling them it is “swamp gas”, “weather balloon”, “crash test dummies (not alien bodies)” etc. makes more sense as disinformation. After all the government for over 50 years has done such, changing the story now will only cause people to realize that the authorities have been lying to us for decades about what they knew.

        1. I never said the gubmint would say UFOs are real. I don’t think they will. But teasing the public with salacious UFO buffoonery will keep people from digging into other things. That’s how misdirection works. And that’s about as far down that path as I can publicly go.

  6. Interesting, but by itself not worth embracing or rejecting. The one surprise to me is Rick Moran’s byline; it’s been a while since I’ve read anything of his and never anything like this “I want to believe” UFO piece.

    I’m content to wait for this purported blockbuster, though I fear it will be like the Steele dossier hoax indictments and perp-walks that have been coming real-soon-now for almost two years.

  7. Enh, wouldn’t be surprised if aliens exist and even though a lot of our government are incompetent and corrupt, I’m sure some of them aren’t and are very clever. Just because some nerd doesn’t know what something is, doesn’t mean some other nerd doesn’t know what something is.

    I’m not sure why anyone is worried anyway. Biden is going to be President and he will do just a good a job dealing with aliens as he did with Libya, Syria, Russia, and China. And really, Democrats are soo good at organization that in no time they will organize a Federation of Planets based on Critical Liberation Theory, which all the aliens will love because reality has a left wing bias, and in no time, we will be winning all the interplanetary elections. It’s not like an alien can tell one signature from another or even sign anything with their weird tentacle arms.

    1. Transmutagenetic high fructose corn syrup? You see any geodesic tents in the crop circles hidden in the middle of fully grown corn fields?

  8. Clearly what’s going on here is retaliation over the aliens’ clumsy destruction of Aricebo (they actually got caught on drone video, note the bulbous creature with the trident at the 2:13 mark here). What’s really nutty is the facility never actually observed the incoming ship (at the time it was studying asteroid 1313MKXVulcan and the staff had mistakenly screwed up the focus procedures).

    So this is all a misdirection campaign to encourage the aliens to provide compensation for the destroyed observatory, while preparing the public for the inevitable big reveal, where the aliens will be introduced to the world by President Biden using his own invented sign language.

  9. This worries me, a lot, because it’s potentially very dangerous. The reason is nomenclature.

    If this is real, and those are spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin, they might be called “alien”, or worse yet, if hostile, “alien invaders”, and that cannot be allowed. It’s racist.

    We must begin now to head off this dire threat. Embrace the terminology; “Undocumented visitors.” And, if they are hostile and begin vaporizing our cities, “mostly peaceful aggrieved and persecuted individuals” who are “peacefully protesting”.

    1. Without a doubt, many of the left would welcome an alien invasion because they view our existence as illigitimate.

    1. The media must be in on because of there coordinated messaging. Many youtubers went there and diffused the media driven narrative.

      Sheet metal joined with pop rivets, not even welded. Remote access but accessible by pretty much anyone.

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